Tickets for slow drivers!

**BoristheBiter** · 4th June 2013, 12:42

Originally Posted by Mushu

Sorry, my fault for assuming people would know the difference between the content of a post and a sig.

Sorry, our fault for think a sig goes under the black sig line

This is quite possibly the stupidest idea I've read on Kb to date.

So after misreading my post and asking if I wanted to ban trucks you want to effectively ban trucks. Do you feel like freight should be more expensive? Imagine what that would do to the price of... well, everything.

Not to mention the fact that every truck in the country would be on the road outside those hours to try and make up for lost time, and more drivers missing their rest breaks, it would be anarchy out there every night.

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And so it should be. trucks should not be on the roads as the roads are not built for them. Most roads in the citys are not built for them. Most drive ways are not built for them. The trucks are getting bigger and slower and should be forced to fuck off and stop holding the rest of us up.

**caspernz** · 4th June 2013, 12:54

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

And so it should be. trucks should not be on the roads as the roads are not built for them. Most roads in the citys are not built for them. Most drive ways are not built for them. The trucks are getting bigger and slower and should be forced to fuck off and stop holding the rest of us up.

Hahaha, how about us from the trucking fraternity organise a nationwide week-long park-up? No gas at the pumps, no food at the supermarkets, about the only thing left to amuse yourself is play with yourself...but I suspect you've had lots of practice at that already

**Mushu** · 4th June 2013, 12:56

Originally Posted by scumdog

First off :The above is almost the same value clap-trap. (assuming it's not a troll - which I hope it is...)

Anyhoo, in case it is NOT a troll..

So why should so many people stay at home 'because the chances of running into the police is far higher than usual'. - were these people all pissed, speeding, disqualified or driving unreg'd cars with no WOF and on bald tyres or something???

And I have yet to see claims the '4kmh' tolerance itself made any definable difference and I have yet to hear of ANYBODY staying at home because of it.

Oh and what a pathetic excuse for not going to Timaru...sheesh.

Yes, as you suggest, I guess luck probably DID have a fair bit to do with the zero toll - as did the 4kmh thing, more cops out there safer cars, etc etc.

Because the police tend to pick on me, and often make up some reason to give me a bullshit lecture, so I like to avoid them.

You just heard of me staying home because of it... And my uncle who suggested we go somewhere else instead, and my cousin who declined and that was just when that particular trip was suggested.

Plenty of people drive when they aren't sure whether they over the limit, tons of people speed, drive disqualified our drive unregistered or unroadworthy cars (I don't drink but I do speed occasionally and I also own a bike I don't have a license to ride and there's plenty of others out there)

And I didn't want to go to Timaru, I've been there before, it's a shit hole.

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**Mushu** · 4th June 2013, 13:16

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

And so it should be. trucks should not be on the roads as the roads are not built for them. Most roads in the citys are not built for them. Most drive ways are not built for them. The trucks are getting bigger and slower and should be forced to fuck off and stop holding the rest of us up.

where did you hear that roads aren't designed for trucks? that's just bullshit, of course they're designed to accommodate trucks and trucks aren't getting bigger or slower there are laws to regulate the length and width of trucks and if anything they're getting faster (better technology allowing for better engines, brakes, tires etc..)

If you keep trucks off the road, the whole country would fall apart you wouldn't even be able to get your bread and milk or gas for your car, everything relies on trucks you're a fool if you think we can do without them.

Truck drivers are generally very curtious on the road, they let you past when they can, let people in in traffic and aren't represented highly in crash stats if you factor crashes vs kms driven. The problem drivers are those that don't have the confidence to do what needs to be done quickly and efficiently and those that seem to think every one should have to wait for them like the average caravan/ motorhome driver.

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**Scuba_Steve** · 4th June 2013, 13:22

Originally Posted by Mushu

where did you hear that roads aren't designed for trucks? that's just bullshit, of course they're designed to accommodate trucks and trucks aren't getting bigger or slower there are laws to regulate the length and width of trucks and if anything they're getting faster (better technology allowing for better engines, brakes, tires etc..)

If you keep trucks off the road, the whole country would fall apart you wouldn't even be able to get your bread and milk or gas for your car, everything relies on trucks you're a fool if you think we can do without them.

Truck drivers are generally very curtious on the road, they let you past when they can, let people in in traffic and aren't represented highly in crash stats if you factor crashes vs kms driven.

^ That; & 9/10 times nowadays I don't seen trucks holding people up anymore its a car in-front of the truck holding it & the rest of the line up. Somethings definitely wrong with drivers when it's a car holding up a legally restricted truck

**oneofsix** · 4th June 2013, 13:28

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

^ That; & 9/10 times nowadays I don't seen trucks holding people up anymore its a car in-front of the truck holding it & the rest of the line up. Somethings definitely wrong with drivers when it's a car holding up a legally restricted truck

now there's an idea, holding up a truck should be an instant fine. Fit with the current govt. policy of "roads of National significances" which a really to help the trucking companies, fine the car driver that is holding the truck up would do as much if not more to assist the trucking companies and their customers than the building of the new roads.

**BoristheBiter** · 4th June 2013, 13:31

Originally Posted by caspernz

Hahaha, rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Mushu

Truck drivers are generally very curtious on the road, they let you past when they can, let people in in traffic and aren't represented highly in crash stats if you factor crashes vs kms driven. The problem drivers are those that don't have the confidence to do what needs to be done quickly and efficiently and those that seem to think every one should have to wait for them like the average caravan/ motorhome driver.

Sorry haven't had a troll in weeks and you guys bite quicker than I do.

As you Mushu are from CHCH I will give you the benefit of the doubt when it comes to how truck drive behave down there but up here they are just as bad as the car drivers.

**oneofsix** · 4th June 2013, 13:44

Got to leave stats
http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/8753...r-on-our-roads

The research also found that higher fuel prices and less motorcycle registrations played a part in the fall in road deaths

There may have been a drop on bike rego's but doesn't follow there was the same drop in the number of bikes on the road.

Still there is some good news but can it be believed?

However, taking these factors into account, there was still 50 less deaths on the road in 2011 than the trends accounted for, indicating there has been a real change in the way people drive. Or to put it another way, people seem to be driving safe

**caspernz** · 4th June 2013, 13:49

There is a simple connection between fuel price and leisure travel by road. Fuel price goes up and leisure travel goes down. No scientific data to support that assertion, only years of hauling fuel.

Feel free to extrapolate further to take into account that those who can least afford the fuel also have the crappiest cars etc, and naturally road deaths trend downwards. Funny what a redneck PhD can do for research?

**oneofsix** · 4th June 2013, 14:25

Originally Posted by caspernz

There is a simple connection between fuel price and leisure travel by road. Fuel price goes up and leisure travel goes down. No scientific data to support that assertion, only years of hauling fuel.

Feel free to extrapolate further to take into account that those who can least afford the fuel also have the crappiest cars etc, and naturally road deaths trend downwards. Funny what a redneck PhD can do for research?

The last 50 and probably a good percentage of the rest of the drop has been taken into account.