Have you seen outside? This isn't global warming. You can see stupid people doing dumb things all the time.Originally Posted by Kickaha
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Have you seen outside? This isn't global warming. You can see stupid people doing dumb things all the time.
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Bogeyman
Asian tanker crew used to proudly hand out business cards that went: Ramesh Magen, BSc, (failed), MBS, (failed) etc etc.
The point was their families were wealthy enough to send them to 'varsities they had absolutely no preparation for.
Oh, the NZ dropout thing: lack of application/consequences, not intelligence.
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Forum whore
i conclude that you are part of the majority
Forum whore
I do like kebabs.
Forum whore
A good quick summation
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archiv...alking-turkey/
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
You have missed a lot then. Lovely place (reminds me of the far north of NZ) and great people.
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Cornered by Cougars
Closer to home, there is a rumour that the new earthworks at Westgate (at the motorway interchange) are so that the existing Westgate Mall can "shift" over the road to this new area.
Not only does this seem like a complete waste of resources, but I sound like my dad when I say "what the fuck happened to NZ where shopping malls are our new past-time"
Curmudgeon
This is nothing whatsoever to do with democracy, unless you can prove that a majority of Turkish voters are in that park.
Riots by disaffected groups happen in all kinds of political models, so as usual, you're indulging in ignorant childish hyperbole.
Anarchic Wild Child
It has everything to do with democracy - only democracies allow such freedom of expression as demonstrations ... (the riot occured when heavy handed police moved in on a peaceful demonstration - you only saw the violent end on your screen ...)
In a totalitarian contry as soon as 10 people got together they would be arrested ..
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Most people are dumbass
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Curmudgeon
I agree that in the main, only democracies allow protest of that nature, however in this case you have people demonstrating against a democratically elected govt. on some fairly nebulous issues. By definition rioting in the streets is not democratic behavour, and if this protest had been a bunch of Islamic Fundamentalists calling for Sharia Law, we would be condeming it.
Democracy, yes - at it's finest, maybe not...
...and yes, I am being a contrarian.
Anarchic Wild Child
Hmm .. clearly not nebulous to them .. and think of the things that people in Godzone have demonstrated against ... some pretty nebulous things there ... a road side protest against prostitution in their suburb ??? Placard wavers demanding a return of Georgie Pie ???
Oh ??? I disagreee .. maybe it is illegal and possibly immoral ... but "not democratic??? By what definitionBy definition rioting in the streets is not democratic behavour,
Maybe .. maybe not .. it is their democratic right to protest - even if they are Islamic fundamentalists ...and if this protest had been a bunch of Islamic Fundamentalists calling for Sharia Law, we would be condeming it.
Maybe .. maybe not .. the police heavy-handed action turned a protest into a riot ...Democracy, yes - at it's finest, maybe not...
...and yes, I am being a contrarian.
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Curmudgeon
It is their democratic right to protest.
It is not their right to riot, and it certainly isn't clear that they represent a majority.
As I said, I was taking issue with the assumption that the highest form of Democracy invovles a riot, and that many here who are applauding this would be horrified if the subject was Islamic Fundamentalism. Part of the cost of living in a democracy is that sometimes your guy doesn't win, and that you may be at odds with the majority.
BTW - Izzat where you buy your frocks...?
Hardcore Biker
http://defnesumanblogs.com/2013/06/0...g-in-istanbul/
Last week of May 2013 a group of people most of whom did not belong to any specific organization or ideology got together in Istanbul’s Gezi Park. Among them there were many of my friends and yoga students. Their reason was simple: To prevent and protest the upcoming demolishing of the park for the sake of building yet another shopping mall at very center of the city. There are numerous shopping malls in Istanbul, at least one in every neighborhood! The tearing down of the trees was supposed to begin early Thursday morning. People went to the park with their blankets, books and children. They put their tents down and spent the night under the trees. Early in the morning when the bulldozers started to pull the hundred-year-old trees out of the ground, they stood up against them to stop the operation.
Istanbul: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Istanbul
I believe that peeps are just sick and tired of being screwed over and over again by those in power. It does not matter if they are left, right, center on the spectrums of politics. Peeps just had enough of their elected 'representatives" and their decisions.
A government might have been elected by 51% of the population, but it has to 'rule' over a full 100 %. I think that this wee little point gets often overlooked in politics, be it in Turkey or elsewhere.
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