Turkey - TPTB want a mall in the park

[mashman]

It looks like that is on the cards for the future.
Meantime, facebook is getting out some interesting footage. A group of riot police beating the crap out of a lone woman on the streets of Izmir...
Brave riot police.

I hope not... like hope has anything to do with it.
Fark . I've stopped looking at the pictures as they sadden me no end, but the little rays of light, as in the footy fans case, brings a smile.

[scumdog]

This is why poor education is so important to TPTB, got to keep the next generation ignorant, preferably by pretending to "fix" the education system, more like fixing a race than repairing or improving.

So where do TPTB get THEIR education before they are PTB...?

At 'special' schools???

[Swoop]

So where do TPTB get THEIR education before they are PTB...?

Looking at the labour party, normally 20years of being a university student and having no experience in the "real" world.

[oneofsix]

So where do TPTB get THEIR education before they are PTB...?

At 'special' schools???

Generally yes. We tend to call them "private schools" and they are heavily subsidised "charities" by the tax payer who's kids are getting the dumbed down education at public schools. And the kids are specially groomed to take over their roles as the real princes and princess of the world, (not the phoney royals that have the "official" titles).

In truth TPTB aren't locals, research the likes of the Bilderberg group.

Now and behave surf and bow to your feudal masters.

[blue rider]

Looking at the labour party, normally 20years of being a university student and having no experience in the "real" world.

and the nationals all get theirs where?

.....two sides of a coin bashing is getting really just dumb, considering that peeps everywhere on this planet are given the stick by government of all shades and creed.

but hey......whohohohohohoho, I am not a labour supporter, or a green supporter, or a national supporter, or an act supporter......whohohoho I support nothing...and thats what we get. Nothing, and a couple in the face if we don't behave.

[scumdog]

Now and behave surf and bow to your feudal masters.

Surf?
There's a 4.1 degree frost down here donchaknow...

Or didja mean serf...

[mashman]

Generally yes. We tend to call them "private schools" and they are heavily subsidised "charities" by the tax payer who's kids are getting the dumbed down education at public schools. And the kids are specially groomed to take over their roles as the real princes and princess of the world, (not the phoney royals that have the "official" titles).

In truth TPTB aren't locals, research the likes of the Bilderberg group.

Now and behave surf and bow to your feudal masters.

heh... the reason they're dumbing us down is because the genetic makeup of the interbred from the boys club are now 2 steps away from riding the special bus.

[mashman]

Dozens arrested in Turkey over protest tweets, accused of 'inciting hatred'... I guess it was bound to happen . I'd love to see the comments/pictures that they've been arrested over, but they haven't been made available... and we all know that internet context can sometimes get lost, completely open to how the translator reads the words, well, as long as you've used the internet they'll know that. I wonder if paranoid nutbars that lead a country's understand that. Probably can't afford to take the chance. The apology from the Deputy PM is touching

[mashman]

"Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan has warned that he will not show "any more tolerance" for protests"
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"Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan says protesters' actions have infringed on other people's freedom". How many other people's freedom? Or just the guys who want to build on the park? It's a peaceful protest, not a riot, so what's the problem?

Democracy is dead.

[Oscar]

"Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan has warned that he will not show "any more tolerance" for protests"
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"Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan says protesters' actions have infringed on other people's freedom". How many other people's freedom? Or just the guys who want to build on the park? It's a peaceful protest, not a riot, so what's the problem?

Democracy is dead.

So based on very little information (as usual) you draw a very dramatic (and silly) conclusion.

Do you know the slightest thing about democracy in Turkey?
For example, do you know that they had a referundum recently reducing the parlimentary term?
Do you have any idea what Erdogan's support is?
How do you know that the protestors don't represent a minority?

[mashman]

So based on very little information (as usual) you draw a very dramatic (and silly) conclusion.

Do you know the slightest thing about democracy in Turkey?
For example, do you know that they had a referundum recently reducing the parlimentary term?
Do you have any idea what Erdogan's support is?
How do you know that the protestors don't represent a minority?

That's the thing, the people who are concerned haven't been consulted.

[gwigs]

That's the thing, the people who are concerned haven't been consulted.

Go the people.. Fuck the TPTB...Cunts in control as usual....I,d like to know what they gain eh.!
Must feel good in your heart to fuck the stupid people over...

[Oscar]

That's the thing, the people who are concerned haven't been consulted.

Interesting.
Why don't you give us some background?
Planning applications and that sort of thing...

[Banditbandit]

Interesting.
Why don't you give us some background?
Planning applications and that sort of thing...

Start here ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-protests.html

Then go here .. a Turkish source ...

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-3170...rd-bridge.html

Or here ...

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-3141...riticisms.html

(Planning??? What planning - even the planners don't like it ...)

And you are determined to uphold the "democractic" image of Turkey ?? This is not democracy as we know it ..

[Oscar]

Start here ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-protests.html

Then go here .. a Turkish source ...

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-3170...rd-bridge.html

Or here ...

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-3141...riticisms.html

(Planning??? What planning - even the planners don't like it ...)

And you are determined to uphold the "democractic" image of Turkey ?? This is not democracy as we know it ..

You are correct - it is not democracy as we know it.
It is also not "the death of democracy", as Mushbrain so breathlessly insists.
The eventual outcome of this may actually re-inforce Turkish democracy and human rights. Either that, or tip Turkey back into the realm of the Generals or the Mullahs. This process has been going on since Attaturk took over, and the question is - which way will Turkey go, European Democracy or Middle Eastern / Muslim / Sharia failed state.

I was attempting to get Mushbrain to actually back up his hyperbole by providing facts (for a change).