Turkey - TPTB want a mall in the park

**mashman** · 18th June 2013, 20:03

Originally Posted by blue rider

Fussball = Soccer

Sorry, I forgot you were female, so you can be excused for your faux pas should you wish.

**avgas** · 18th June 2013, 20:07

Still looking for a decent riot in NZ. Last good one was when the Vans skate tour was here in 96 or Whangamata New Years Eve in 98.
No one overturns cars in NZ anymore.
Hell a cripple in Westpac shut down a good section of Auckland with an air pistol.

**blue rider** · 18th June 2013, 20:17

Originally Posted by mashman

Sorry, I forgot you were female, so you can be excused for your faux pas should you wish.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soccer

as you were....

let me make that easy for ya

Origin of SOCCER

by shortening & alteration from association football
First Known Use: 1889

**mashman** · 18th June 2013, 20:25

Originally Posted by avgas

Still looking for a decent riot in NZ. Last good one was when the Vans skate tour was here in 96 or Whangamata New Years Eve in 98.
No one overturns cars in NZ anymore.
Hell a cripple in Westpac shut down a good section of Auckland with an air pistol.

Thug.

Originally Posted by blue rider

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soccer

as you were....

let me make that easy for ya

Origin of SOCCER

by shortening & alteration from association football
First Known Use: 1889

I know the origin of it darlin... but in the UK, the land from whence the glorious game came (or at least where the game was associated), it was shortened, not altered, to Football. Toe the line.

**blue rider** · 18th June 2013, 20:47

Originally Posted by mashman

Thug.

I know the origin of it darlin... but in the UK, the land from whence the glorious game came (or at least where the game was associated), it was shortened, not altered, to Football. Toe the line.

sorry can't toe the line....poms ....pffft, ....football is the thing the gentlemanly thing with the egg or so i has been told.

**blue rider** · 19th June 2013, 09:25

the turks are apperantly not finished yet...

instead of marching and banging pots and pans they have taken to just stand silently, alone or in small groups

http://galeri.sozcu.com.tr/2013/foto...du.html?pid=39

yes, one can get arrested for 'standing silently', the police will make it up as they go along, after all their orders are clear, keep those pesky unhappy citizens of the street.

more pics from Hurriyet on of turkeys larger newspapers.

http://fotogaleri.hurriyet.com.tr/ga...0216&rid=2&p=1

in the mean time in brasil, where pesky citizens rather see their government funds go to silly things like schools n hospitals than large stadiums for sporting events that most of them will not see as the tickets to those sporting events are too dear...

scroll down for further pictures...I especially like the ones with the indiscriminate use of pepper spray, the police they friend n helper (the same pictures, albeit are coming from countries world wide, Mr. Cop that sprayed non violent protesters in the States, the Lady in Red, now the Lady and young man from Brazil etc.)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/0...-Have-Awakened

**gwigs** · 19th June 2013, 18:29

Originally Posted by mashman

I've always love his and their music, but over the last few years it's started to make more and more sense lyrically.

But a fave from K.A.O.S

[Billy:] "Four minutes and counting."
[Jim:] "O.K."
[Billy:] "They pressed the button, Jim."
[Jim:] "They pressed the button Billy, what button?"
[Billy:] "The big red one."
[Jim:] "You mean THE button?"
[Billy:] "Goodbye, Jim."
[Jim:] "Goodbye!
Oh yes
This ain't au revoir, it's goodbye!
Ha! Ha!
This is KAOS
It's a beautiful, balmy
Southern California summer day
It's 80 degrees...
I said balmy...
I could say bomby
Ha! Ha!
O.K.
I'm Jim and this is Radio KAOS
And with only four minutes left to us
Let's use this as wisely as possible....
([Molly:] Everybody got someone they call home)
Out at Dodger Stadium
It's the bottom of the seventh
The Dodgers are leading three to nothing over the Giants
And for those of you who are looking to go surfing tomorrow
Too bad

Watched 1984 last night..watched it in 1984 ...didnt get it then...and ooh I get it now ..

**mashman** · 19th June 2013, 19:12

Originally Posted by gwigs

Watched 1984 last night..watched it in 1984 ...didnt get it then...and ooh I get it now ..

Oddly enough a movie I've never seen. Might has to consult the video shop.

**Banditbandit** · 21st June 2013, 09:29

Originally Posted by gwigs

Watched 1984 last night..watched it in 1984 ...didnt get it then...and ooh I get it now ..

Originally Posted by mashman

Oddly enough a movie I've never seen. Might has to consult the video shop.

It's excellent - so's the book .. so is We by Yevgeny Zamyatin (http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Library...-1&keywords=We) Orwell nicked a far bit of his book from Zamyatin's ...

During the 1970s I wondered what 1984 would actually be like ... when we got there it was same old same old ... I can't believe that was 29 years ago !!!

**puddytat** · 21st June 2013, 20:24

...........http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2013/06/21...ry-conclusion/

**avgas** · 21st June 2013, 20:59

Originally Posted by mashman

Thug.

Don't ask for what you don't want. Nothing changed peacefully.
Unless you believe Ghandi was a rapist.

**unstuck** · 21st June 2013, 21:03

So does that mean the CIA are gonna start buying tama iti guns and shit.

**mashman** · 21st June 2013, 23:33

Originally Posted by avgas

Don't ask for what you don't want. Nothing changed peacefully.
Unless you believe Ghandi was a rapist.

True. The changes that we have had have only ever been structural, never societal. Those who govern may change but the politics remains the same. I would like to think a peaceful transition could be made, it's certainly possible, but as you say it's change has never really happened peacefully.