Strange happenings with my bike

[Tigadee]

Well which is it? it's hard enough to help out over the internet without being given conflicting/incorrect symptoms...

Wot I said...

Press start button, lights dim [but not turn off, i.e. brown out not black out], engine doesn't turn over or try to at all, just silence.

Nek minute, she starts up like normal and rides off. Sometimes she'll hiccup like this morning, other times not at all and the ride is trouble-free like this evening.

Checked air filter [K&N] and it's clean. Tried looking for the fuel filter but can't find it [if there is one]. Fuses are good.

My brake/tail light for the front brakes doesn't come on. Managed to pull out the tail light/brake bulb [3-in-1 front & rear brake and running light].
None of the filaments look broken?

[bogan]

Wot I said...

Press start button, lights dim [but not turn off, i.e. brown out not black out], engine doesn't turn over or try to at all, just silence.

Nek minute, she starts up like normal and rides off. Sometimes she'll hiccup, other times not at all and the ride is trouble-free.

Checked air filter [K&N] and it's clean. Tried looking for the fuel filter but can't find it [if there is one]. Fuses are good.

My brake/tail light for the front brakes doesn't come on. Managed to pull out the tail light/brake bulb [3-in-1 front & rear brake and running light].
None of the filaments look broken?

If your headlight is still getting power when the starter is pressed, you've got a problem with the switch, or a short in the wiring. The brake light switch is isolated from the ignition stuff, chances are its just a worn out microswitch. Unplug it and short the connections out to check if that is the case.

[nzspokes]

Tried looking for the fuel filter but can't find it [if there is one].

Its in the fuel tap. Turn it to off and take the hose off. Run hose into a cup and see how fast it fills up.

[buggerit]

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I had a look at the wiring diagram and I have no clue what I'm looking at...



Shush!

I see the loom is earthed to the chassis so you need to check this (different to where the battery is earthed to chassis)

[Maha]

Sell it and buy this, http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ed-for-GSX750F

I bought the Radian for Anne for $1000..had no end of trouble with it after a short while, first was the same issue Tig seems be having which ended up being a fuel issue. Anne sorted that. Then came the clutch saga, that had to be overhauled. Anne sorted it with big help from Laava. Then the Tank had to be rust proofed...it went on and on. The bike was just not worth the extra money thrown at it. So I sold it to guy down the line, when I say sold, I mean gave it to him. He never paid me for it and kept moving house...still, the bike was no longer our problem...win win.

I think it was, because of the fuel supply issue, that we ended up doing the tank.

Thread here--->> http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ely-a-Blow-Job

[neels]

Looking at your wiring diagram (which is surprisingly similar to the one for the XJ600 I used to own ) .....

Front and rear brake light switches are connected in parallel, if the back one works and the front doesn't it's either a wiring fault or the silly little switch on the front brake lever is faulty, had that one on several bikes.

The starting circuit is via the diode block, doesn't usually give any trouble but has a bunch of stuff that goes to/through it, there is a combination of neutral/clutch/sidestand switch which allows or doesn't allow the bike to start.

Do you have a centrestand on the bike, if you do you should be able to safely check some stuff without launching yourself through the garage wall

Start with the sidestand switch (if it hasn't already been removed), put bike in gear with sidestand up and see if the bike behaves the same as when it fails to start, do the same with the clutch switch to see if that's working as advertised. There is also a connection from the sidestand relay to the ignitor which kills the engine if the stand is put down when it shouldn't be. .

Electrical faults are such fun...

[Murray]

Wot I said...

Press start button, lights dim [but not turn off, i.e. brown out not black out], engine doesn't turn over or try to at all, just silence.

Nek minute, she starts up like normal and rides off. Sometimes she'll hiccup like this morning, other times not at all and the ride is trouble-free like this evening.

Checked air filter [K&N] and it's clean. Tried looking for the fuel filter but can't find it [if there is one]. Fuses are good.

My brake/tail light for the front brakes doesn't come on. Managed to pull out the tail light/brake bulb [3-in-1 front & rear brake and running light].
None of the filaments look broken?

So any update????

[unstuck]

Yeah, come on Tiger WTF is going on, waiting with baited breath.

[bogan]

Went for another ride without fixing it and is still pushing it home?

[caseye]

I have it on good authority that George is going around to see him this week!
Bout bloody time there Tig.

[nzspokes]

Should we run a sweep on what it is?

Im going for blocked fuel tap/tank.

[unstuck]

Im gonna say electrical.

[bogan]

Should we run a sweep on what it is?

Im going for blocked fuel tap/tank.

Post #2, cos changing my bet would be cheating

[Drew]

My money is on the kill switch wiring. I've had to fix it on an XV, so it's what I know.

[Mom]

Should we run a sweep on what it is?

Im going for blocked fuel tap/tank.

Im gonna say electrical.

Post #2, cos changing my bet would be cheating

I'd be looking for loom gremlins, particularly in the RHS switchgear, as that has the kill and starter buttons right? so if something was going wrong, it could potentially make it stop running, or stop starting, but leave the headlights going fine.

My money is on the kill switch wiring. I've had to fix it on an XV, so it's what I know.

Having had one of these wonderful bikes, and experiencing all its little quirks, I am going to say a combination of all of the above. My poxy Blue Bitch refused to start on me too from time to time. It sounded electrical, but then all was fine and she started first time. New battery and all connections checked.

When I dismantled the fuel tap all was clear, the dirt was finest rust particles. In fact the entire inside of everything was a pale shade of orange on inspection. Varnishing of the surfaces of cases etc. I am going dirty fuel, old bike, perished inlet manifolds, old battery/poor connections through out.

Interesting that the BB came right after fixing the tank.

I wonder if her new owner would be good enough to come on here and let us know how she is now? Doubt it though.