Xbox One & Big Brother

**superjackal** · 14th June 2013, 15:41

Anyone else interested as to why Xbox wants to put 24 hr surveilance into all our homes?

**SMOKEU** · 14th June 2013, 15:44

Is that with the new camera thingy that's always on or something?

**oneofsix** · 14th June 2013, 15:45

Originally Posted by gnjackal

Anyone else interested as to why Xbox wants to put 24 hr surveilance into all our homes?

I've already read 1984. Slightly different spin on the tv that watches you but with kinect and what not you get much the same result.

By the way logging in once every 24hr is isn't the same as being logged in for 24 hrs

**bogan** · 14th June 2013, 15:53

Originally Posted by gnjackal

Anyone else interested as to why Xbox wants to put 24 hr surveilance into all our homes?

my guesses are

1) Ad revenue
2) DRM
3) watching you fap (big brother surveillance)

Profiling who is watching the tube will be very powerful for targetted advertising. Watching who is playing/watching could be used for DRM, turning shit off for those who haven't paid.

Microsoft seems to be moving away from hardcore users in favor of getting more control over the less adept/caring users. A lot of 'this is how we want you to use our product' instead of asking what the customer wants.

**Scuba_Steve** · 14th June 2013, 16:42

Originally Posted by bogan

my guesses are

1) Ad revenue Yes - Data mining
2) DRM Yes
3) watching you fap (big brother surveillance) Probably not... Yet

Profiling who is watching the tube will be very powerful for targetted advertising. Watching who is playing/watching could be used for DRM, turning shit off for those who haven't paid.

Microsoft seems to be moving away from hardcore users in favor of getting more control over the less adept/caring users. A lot of 'this is how we want you to use our product' instead of asking what the customer wants.

**mashman** · 14th June 2013, 18:01

Originally Posted by oneofsix

I've already read 1984. Slightly different spin on the tv that watches you but with kinect and what not you get much the same result.

By the way logging in once every 24hr is isn't the same as being logged in for 24 hrs

You're assuming that all components are activated and deactivated by the power on/off button. Similarly you don't need to have GPS switched on for you to be tracked by GPS.

**scumdog** · 14th June 2013, 18:31

X-Box?
As much use as a chocolate firguard as far as I'm concerned...

I'd rather buy more tassles...

**\m/** · 15th June 2013, 00:06

This is one of the reasons why I won't be buying an Xbone. I'll stick with my far superior PC.

**bogan** · 15th June 2013, 11:04

Originally Posted by \m/

This is one of the reasons why I won't be buying an Xbone. I'll stick with my far superior PC.

That and the GFX, see the unveiled demo of BF3 (i think it was) had sweet graphics, but I didn't know consoles had backspace keypress prompts

**Gremlin** · 15th June 2013, 15:25

Originally Posted by gnjackal

Anyone else interested as to why Xbox wants to put 24 hr surveilance into all our homes?

Coz you lot keep buying ipads and iphones... MS needs devices back in the home watching you lot.

**Scuba_Steve** · 15th June 2013, 16:35

Originally Posted by \m/

This is one of the reasons why I won't be buying an Xbone. I'll stick with my far superior PC.

Which I'm assuming runs Windows, which would be made by MS, who makes the Xbox One... Yep can't see that backfiring in times to come

**Scuba_Steve** · 20th June 2013, 09:38

Haha, think this is the fastest "we fucked up" reversal in MS history

Microsoft has announced an almost full reversal of the controversial digital rights management features built into the Xbox One. The console, launching later this year, will no longer require an online connection, or need to ping the Microsoft servers every 24 hours to hang on to life. It will also now play discs like any regular console and no longer place restrictions on trading games. There will also be no regional restrictions.

"The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold," said Xbox division president Don Mattrick. "Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray."

Microsoft previously addressed concerns about Kinect's always-on, always-listening monitoring of your living room.

Why the reversal? Um, if you payed attention to E3 last week, you observed one of the greatest pummelings in industry history. Sony's PlayStation 4 presented itself as the other side of the coin to Microsoft's restrictions and stole the show.

**superjackal** · 20th June 2013, 09:53

Originally Posted by oneofsix

By the way logging in once every 24hr is isn't the same as being logged in for 24 hrs

Close enough for Jazz?

**superjackal** · 20th June 2013, 09:58

Originally Posted by mashman

You're assuming that all components are activated and deactivated by the power on/off button. Similarly you don't need to have GPS switched on for you to be tracked by GPS.

Good point, the whole system is designed to stay permanently on in a low power state. It's never "off". Fuck microsoft on this one, you can't even play your old 360 games on the new console, and given the 360 has a 3 year life cycle before the heat soaks die.... ugh, what a callous company. Just, yuck, yuck, yuck....