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    Paleo diet?

    The palaeolithic or caveman diet is getting a bit of press lately. Basically its eat like your ancestors, no grains sugar or carbs

    I smoked like a train these last 2 years, as well as a fair bit on and off for nearly 30years. Consequently, these last 6months I have had chronic dry skin and recent tendonosis, which began as a sporting injury.

    As usual the GP was freaken useless so I hit the intern net.

    Hours of googling later and I'm eating a pigs trotter boiled in soup every day....

    Blaardy wow!!! My painful tendonosis is doing a u turn and I'm feeling great again, all in less than a week! Who would have thought... pigs feet!!

    Gelatine rebuilds collagen. Collagen makes up a very very very big part of our bodies, soft tissues like ligaments and tendons, lungs and bones. The amino acids therein also detoxify the liver and are hepaprotective. Toe jam has totally cleared too, and I'm less stressed and wake happy with a boner

    Tis a shame peeps no longer have bone broths, casseroles and stews, eschewing the old school for lean cuts, which are more expensive and less nutritionally supportive.

    I need to rave about this and highly recommend bone broths. I ate out and got lazy these last few years, and paid the price of ill health.

    If you eat plenty of casseroles and soups with bones, crockpots and roasts you will probably be fine.

    If not, start now! Chicken feet, pigs feet, ears and tails, beef bones, sheep bones, chicken soup, fish head soup...
    Not too much pig bits though, they dont sweat so metabolic waste may build in the tissue...

    Gelatine/collagen also coats the intestines and prevents leaky gut which causes all the associated autoimmune disorders like arthritis irritable bowel lupus fibromyalgia MS.... all sorts can be healed simply by eating bone soups, and cutting out nearly all fruit and carbs

    In one week my wrinkly skin on the back of my hands has gone, nails are really strong, face looks younger.... I cannot recommend highly enough
    http://www.holisticselfhealing.org/BoneBroths.html

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    I reckon!
    Puha and pork bones some watercress would be choice

    Just polished off the last of the big pot I made 5 days ago. Will make another tomorrow, and its also a very easy way to cook

    Fuck bread, corn, cereals, processed foods and sweets from now on.....
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    I've cut out carbs and sugar recently based on some research I've read. I've also added 50% more calories to my diet and maintained my limited exercise. The result so far is 7.5 kg lost in 4 weeks and 3% body fat reduction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluninja View Post
    I've cut out carbs and sugar recently based on some research I've read. I've also added 50% more calories to my diet and maintained my limited exercise. The result so far is 7.5 kg lost in 4 weeks and 3% body fat reduction.
    But the mantra is calories in calories out. However you are saying calories out hasn't changed, calories in has increased by 50% and you have lost weight. You can't go implying that the simple mantra doesn't tell the whole story.
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    Some of the less expensive cuts are some of the best. People have forgotten how good bones, tripe, liver, kidney, heart, tongue, etc taste.

    Thanks for this reminder OP. I will make my bone broth tonight...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    But the mantra is calories in calories out. However you are saying calories out hasn't changed, calories in has increased by 50% and you have lost weight. You can't go implying that the simple mantra doesn't tell the whole story.

    I'm afraid that simple mantra never actually worked with our complex bodies.... I can lend you a copy of "the Smarter Science of Slim" if you want a better explanation.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    I'm afraid that simple mantra never actually worked with our complex bodies.... I can lend you a copy of "the Smarter Science of Slim" if you want a better explanation.....
    You have said what I often say when people, including my Dr, try that mantra on me. I will keep that offer in mind, the research might come in handy. Bluninja really peaked my interest if he has done what his post implies.

    BTW; found the podcasts to "the Smarter Science of Slim"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigadee View Post
    Some of the less expensive cuts are some of the best. People have forgotten how good bones, tripe, liver, kidney, heart, tongue, etc taste.

    Thanks for this reminder OP. I will make my bone broth tonight...
    can't have all that Awlful miss the steak n kidney pie, the pressed tongue but wasn't much into the rest, went off tripe as a kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    But the mantra is calories in calories out. However you are saying calories out hasn't changed, calories in has increased by 50% and you have lost weight. You can't go implying that the simple mantra doesn't tell the whole story.
    The Law of Conservation of energy does not apply.....unless you measure the calories in all your waste and subtract that from the calories going in

    Your body systems are pretty good at keeping a balance in most circumstances. Consider homeostasis; the more water you put in the more you excrete to maintain the right liquid balance internally. With food there's a whole load of hormonal and chemical balances.

    Consider : if you work physically hard (exercise or physical work) you build up an appetite. Your brain somehow counts the work done and increases hunger to refuel an equal amount.

    Men have fat stored mostly internally and then outside on the belly, women store it straight on the outside round their bum. If it's just excess calories how do they know they are on a woman and go straight to the arse?

    Why do you get fat mommas in poor countries with skinny starving children? Sure they all eat up large and leave nothing for the kids....or the body stores fat regardless of the rest of the body being malnourished. When you are poor, what's the cheapest source of calories? Carb and sugar rich food.
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    Ah. Your the culprit! Making cheap meat fashionable & pushing up the price.

    Used to get pigs heads for $2 each. The butcher wants $10 all of a sudden. Beef shin has doubled in price. Hearts are $5 each on special. Bacon hocks are posh now. K'inell, might have to start catching possums & weasels for tea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneofsix View Post
    You have said what I often say when people, including my Dr, try that mantra on me. I will keep that offer in mind, the research might come in handy. Bluninja really peaked my interest if he has done what his post implies.

    BTW; found the podcasts to "the Smarter Science of Slim"
    His idea is that your body has internal mechanisims to maintain your weight at a set point. The set point weight gets screwed up by crappy modern food including refined sugars and starches so you have to delete the crap to get your body to up its metabolisim and then it will regulate itself around a lower set point.

    Because of all the shit I just can't eat anyway (type 1 diabetes and celeac) I find it very hard to 100% follow a purely theory based diet but having largely adopted his thinking my HBa1C readings have improved beyond belief. Thats good new for any type 1....

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    Paleo Diet? And the average life expectancy of Paleolithic man was what exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    K'inell, might have to start catching possums & weasels for tea.
    Watch out if you'r after Pukekoes - the tendons will spear yr mouth something awful......
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluninja View Post
    The Law of Conservation of energy does not apply.....unless you measure the calories in all your waste and subtract that from the calories going in
    ....

    Why do you get fat mommas in poor countries with skinny starving children? Sure they all eat up large and leave nothing for the kids....or the body stores fat regardless of the rest of the body being malnourished. When you are poor, what's the cheapest source of calories? Carb and sugar rich food.
    Hence you get the redneck comments about the lazy fat poor, yeah right with fizzy cheaper than milk.


    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    His idea is that your body has internal mechanisims to maintain your weight at a set point. The set point weight gets screwed up by crappy modern food including refined sugars and starches so you have to delete the crap to get your body to up its metabolisim and then it will regulate itself around a lower set point.

    Because of all the shit I just can't eat anyway (type 1 diabetes and celeac) I find it very hard to 100% follow a purely theory based diet but having largely adopted his thinking my HBa1C readings have improved beyond belief. Thats good new for any type 1....
    don't think anyone can stick to any theoretical diet but good for you with what you are doing. Just heard his sink analogy.

    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoke View Post
    Paleo Diet? And the average life expectancy of Paleolithic man was what exactly?
    Not only that but you just can't get the same food any more with the way humans have continuously modified your food sources. Carrots were purple, apples weren't as sweet or big or long keeping, and what has been done to meat, size 26 "chickens" anyone?
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