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    Honda CBR500R

    For some years now many of us have been aware that the European Parliament was working on a new motorcycle licencing regime. The new Euro A2 licence class is an intermediate step between the basic learners class and a full licence, there are age and test requirements as well as power and power to weight restrictions. The latter two are: 35kW/47bhp and .2kW/.26bhp per kg.

    The European market is an important one so most manufacturers won't waste time getting bikes that comply with the new A2 licence class to dealers. Honda already have several models that comply, KTM may have some (depending on weight?), BMW already have one.

    The new CBR500R is one example of the new breed, it has the advantage that, in this country, it's LAMS compliant. Now, while I wouldn't mind a smaller bike than the Speed Triple I'm not planning on downsizing to quite that extent thanks, but when offered a ride I accepted. As you do. The forecast for Friday was fine after all.

    The new 500s are selling, a new 500X had just been unloaded before I got to the shop and I was told that it was alrady sold, the dealership having already sold a number of the new 500s previously.

    These twins - 471cc actually, that's to do with the sub 47bhp requirement, come in two other flavours a 500F and the 500X but they all share the same engine and new purpose-designed frame.

    The CBR500R that I rode was a demo model with some 350k on the clock but had been fitted with a Yoshimura can. It wasn't at all noisy, however, as the baffle was still in place. The quality looked fine for a bike of this type and there were no obvious signs that it had been made in Thailand. Then again, the Bonnevilles have been made there for some years now and I haven't heard any complaints from Triumph owners about quality problems.

    The equipment level is good, the mirrors, although they did give me a good view of my elbows, let me see what was behind. The instruments are the same as on the new NC700s, you get a digital speedo, bar graph tacho, fuel guage, trips and clock. No gear indicator but otherwise everything you could reasonably expect.

    The 500 twin didn't seem to require undue revs and I basically trickled out of the dealership at or just above idle. Heading out of town the impression was that with the bike being so small and light it would make an excellent commuter. The 180 degree firing order and balance shaft ensure the engine delivers the 47hp smoothly.

    While the overall dimensions are small, the 500 looks like a real bike and did not feel at all cramped. The ride was more plush than expected, quite comfy in fact. This probably due to my excess weight compared to the riders for whom the bike was designed. The suspension is basic but works: a 41mm conventional non-adjustable fork in front and a nine setting pre-load adjustable shock at the back. “Grown up” tyre sizes too at 120/70 and 160/60 on 17 inch rims.

    On the open road the fairing provided some protection from the elements, it would probably work even better if your riding kit was size S or M rather than XXOS. My excess adipose probably knocked the edge off the performance of the engine too.

    At first I thought that the action didn't quite match the soundtrack but that was unfair. The bike will keep up with traffic and will hustle if asked. It should have enough performance to satisfy the target audience; a smaller rider could tour the South Island no trouble. Honda claim fuel consumption in the order of 3.25L per 100 Kms so the 15.7L tank should have a useful range even if you are a bit heavy fisted.


    Being small and light the bike flicks around corners effortlessly. Sir wishes to change his line mid corner? No problem. The one exception to the “small” theme was the levers. The brake and clutch levers (non-adjustable) are of a size that would not look out of place on a Harley. I would fit decent aftermarket levers at the first oportunity.

    The single disc seems to work, although accidental stoppies are unlikely to be a problem, and the wavy design adds a nice touch to the apearance.

    At first the pricing may look a bit odd. The “basic” F model at $11,000 costs more than the “sporty” R model at 10,500. That's because, in New Zealand, the CB500F will have ABS. As someone who has criticised BlueWing previously for not bringing in bikes with ABS when it was available elsewhere, I guess I should be pleased that in this case there is an option to have it. It has to be a step in the right direction.

    Thanks to Craig at Energy Honda for the ride.
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    nice review.But nearly every new model triumoh owner i know complains about the quality of the chrome finish and alloy finish on the new triumphs.Like lasting patheticly short times before peeling.bubbling, a made in thailand issue perhaps? maybe this has got better,as most asain manufacturing does over time. Hoping the hondas dont have this problem. nice write up
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    Great review, thanks.

    Back in 1989, I owned a Honda 500 also, this being a VF500F.
    Now THAT was a great bike (let down by a bad shock unfort).

    Back then they were squeezing 60 odd hp's out of an extremely torquey (for a 500) engine.
    Plus it was smooth and quite economical.

    Pity they can't reinvent the V4 500 (prob too costly to build). Would sell well today as they did back then.


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    I have a cb500x , got 2400kms now the abs cuts in a little to early . But hey its aimed at learners , me I must wanted a comfortable bike with good torque . It will wheel stand in 1st and 2nd if you feel like being a hoon . As the kms have build up the motor has come more rev happy . The X has a 17 litre tank and gets 390 kms to a tank ( round 4.6 ltrs to the 100 ) it road manners are lovely the gears are a bit short to keep the torque on song . Grips ,pegs , pedals, levers are cheaply made but that's the only real things I want to change . And the lights have good spread and depth.( love a night ride good way to clear the mind ) Not a first bike but as your 2nd yes The new cb500 range are fun light bikes

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    Good review. Thanks. The CB500F is on my list for a possible new bike in a few years.

    But I wonder how heavy other <650cc bikes are if you call a nearly 200 kg bike "light" . Maybe I should hit the gym if I ever want to upgrade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grashopper View Post
    But I wonder how heavy other <650cc bikes are if you call a nearly 200 kg bike "light" . Maybe I should hit the gym if I ever want to upgrade
    The 194kg figure I saw is kerb, which should be all fluids, fuel, and "ready to ride".

    As comparison, a large capacity sports tourer is around 300kg. So yes, 200kg to me at least, is light
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    Yeah I was surprised to see how heavy the cb500x is, 'bout the same as my f650. It's on my list of possible replacements as well, along with the nc700x (nc750x next year) or maybe a Kwaka Versys...
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    We have suspension upgrade options already worked out for this model. The front end can be significantly improved, starting with springs, then adding Race Tech emulators. Top of the pile is a NIX20 style adjustable cartridge kit. Compression is wholly in the left leg with adjustment at the very top. Rebound is totally in the right leg with adjustment at the top. The new top fork caps also facilitate external spring preload adjustment. The good news is the price, $1399 incl gst for a full cartridge kit.

    For the rear end we have built two shock options in a highly respected brand name. First is a single tube type with an internal gas dividing piston and rebound adjustment. Also a race spec /trackday spec shock with reservoir, independent rebound and compression adjustment and a length adjuster. These are currently under development but thus far working very well. The price is to be set, but suffice to say they will be VERY well priced.

    Its not only an issue with this bike but also many of its type, irrespective of brand name. The compression damping force in the rear shock is very weak and to get some progression and bottoming out resistance the shock relies heavily on very early engagement of a shrouded bump rubber to ''catch'' longer stroke movements. Unfortunately the pervasive influence of bean counters with no respect for proper engineering looms large. Also its a pain not having a rebound adjuster because you just cannot easily refine rebound damping to match less or more chosen spring preload. Or to compensate for ambient temperature shift.

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    The only thing I would change on a CBR500R would be stiffer front springs and probably Robs magic on the rear shock.

    Test rode one recently, and I think their a fantastic little package. They have the torque of much larger bikes, making them feel very punchy around town, and quite fun to flick through corners. Not amazing brakes, but they do the job well.

    They are the only lams legal bike I can think of (besides maybe that baby Duke) that you would want to hold on to once you'd progressed from learners to full, everything else youd be wanting to trade in after 12 months.

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