Hey .. I need to go somewhere else ... be back tomorow ...
Anarchic Wild Child
Hey .. I need to go somewhere else ... be back tomorow ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
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no one else is...Originally Posted by Oscar
Curmudgeon
Feh. My dog disagrees with you.
Bogeyman
It's Ethiopian, and like many other languages it’s written form bears not the slightest relationship to anything out of Iraq.
You’re going to have to point out where I put down Maori culture, because I can’t see anything remotely close in anything I’ve written, on this keyboard or any bit of string.
I think you’re well out of order.
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Ta
You educated men, fight like bitches!
Hehehehe.
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probably why Maori did not use bows and arrows..
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NEDWN VIII
In 1885 there was a gang of natives called Bro's with Arrows ...maybe they did
Anarchic Wild Child
Interesting - it's called Ge'ez or sometimes fidal ...(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ge'ez_script)
It's a development of the Arabic script (which incidentally had a major impact on the alphabet we use today.
It's origins seems to be 900BC, but really developed by 600-500BC and is well after the Sumerian script developed in 3000BC and the Egyptian hieroglyphics of around 2000BC.
While the development of Ge'ez is a significant achievement, Ethiopia would have had plenty of contact with the literate world to the North - Egypt, Phonecia, Babylon .. as well as to the writing methods of the rest of the Arabic/Islamic world ... so the concept of writing was not new to them. The fact that they developed their own system is a big achievement ... it might be possible to trace origins back to what we now call Iraq ... it might not ... but that is not the important point I was trying to make.
The point I was making was that there have only been three provable independent originis of writing - coming up with the concept is incomparibly more dificult that borrowing, adapting or creating your own once you know it is possible ... It's the getting to know it is possible that is the huge conceptual leap ..
Yes, I have to apologise for that. I read stuff into your words that were not there. My fault.You’re going to have to point out where I put down Maori culture, because I can’t see anything remotely close in anything I’ve written, on this keyboard or any bit of string.
I think you’re well out of order.
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Bogeyman
One of my ancestors was a graduate of the royal college of physicians in Edinborough. Just. He was killed in a duel.
Apparently it was common for gentlemen of the college to be called out several times a year, and they weren't using the Marquess of Queensberry rules.
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Bogeyman
As you're keen to point out, it's difficult to prove what happened that long ago. And I' think you'll find the uptake or death of any given language has more to do with wars of conquest than any difficulty in developing what is, in essence a simple enough tool. Children have been known to invent tollerably complex and relatively effective languages amongst themselves, it lasts roughly as long as it takes for them to confront the need to communicate with a larger group.
De nada, dude.
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Psyclepath
Not entirely, English seems to have evolved a curiously ability to absorb elements from other languages and become a preferred form of communication.
It could have been replaced by both Norse and French by invading forces, but just got bigger and stronger each time.
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Anarchic Wild Child
No issues there ... but we were talking abiout the development of writing, not language development. The conceptual thinking involved in linking marks on a surface with words and sounds is quite a leap in itself - simple enough once you see it, but like all obvious ideas, they are only obvious once they have been first thought of ..
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Jam and tarts....
Yup, making funny scribbles to represent morphemes and phonemes would actually be quite difficult. Which is why writing in pictures was easier, or perhaps carving cheeky faces on sticks.
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Hardcore Biker
Because their hunting and gathering didn't require them.
Weapons of war have always been developed from tools first used for hunting,but in the case of Maori they didn't need the range offered by the B&A because there were no large or dangerous mammals to hunt.
Ta
Oooooh I dunno, those other tribes could be pretty nasty!
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