David Bain vs The Crown - game over

[Madness]

Yes, sometimes, so?

Let me spell it out for you...

For example, just look at the number of pissed drivers who get off as a result of the popo not doing their job properly (and some of these shortcomings are appalling).
They were allegedly pissed (over the legal limit), driving a vehicle and on a legal road but the popo couldn't prove this in many cases due to their own incompetence.

This in itself is a crime against our society yet nobody in the NZ Police ever seems to be held accountable, just as there has been no accountability for the piss poor attempt in properly investigating the Bain murders.

[Murray]

I personally, after reviewing all the evidence on both sides, believe the jury was far too lenient on what is pure conjecture as against factual evidence.

Yeah but David was buying the beers at the end of the trial!!!

[Madness]

So he did get off on a technicality and I personally, after reviewing all the evidence on both sides, believe the jury was far too lenient on what is pure conjecture as against factual evidence. As has been noted several times, the jurors, despite that, did not consider David innocent.

Pity you're not a High Court Judge & only a mere importer of over-priced batteries, otherwise what you believe after reviewing all the evidence (which I find a little far fetched) would actually amount to something.

[scumdog]

This in itself is a crime against our society yet nobody in the NZ Police ever seems to be held accountable,

So it is OK for Joe Citizen to get off on a 'technicality' - but NOT for a cop??


Hey, maybe David bain was a cop and that's how he 'got off'

[98tls]

Yeah but David was buying the beers at the end of the trial!!!

Betcha Joe had a tab going.

[Edbear]

Pity you're not a High Court Judge & only a mere importer of over-priced batteries, otherwise what you believe after reviewing all the evidence (which I find a little far fetched) would actually amount to something.

Hey, everyone is entitled to my opinion...

[Maha]

Betcha Joe had a tab going.

...and now I bet he wishes he hadn't, the bigger picture hadn't been drawn at that point.

[Madness]

So it is OK for Joe Citizen to get off on a 'technicality' - but NOT for a cop??


Hey, maybe David bain was a cop and that's how he 'got off'

You're mis-reading what I said, not soo good at attention to detail. In the case of a drunk driver getting off because the popo didn't do their job properly I think it's only fair that Joe Citizen walks. The popo are highly trained, resourced & well-paid to do their job. If I fuck up at work there are consequences, just as there should be in cases of popo fucking up due to incompetence.

I wasn't talking about popo themselves getting off charges on "technicalities" as this is something I think most of us expect to happen in most cases.

[Madness]

Hey, everyone is entitled to my opinion...

True, and most of us these days see it for what it is.

[mr bucketracer]

david did it the end

[98tls]

...and now I bet he wishes he hadn't, the bigger picture hadn't been drawn at that point.

Never say never,my message to Joe would be keep all those receipts.Failing that Bain could just deliver his paper for eternity though i would stipulate the washing machine and computer were outta bounds.

[scumdog]

You're mis-reading what I said, not soo good at attention to detail. In the case of a drunk driver getting off because the popo didn't do their job properly I think it's only fair that Joe Citizen walks.

And when a lawyer gets his client 'off' for the following reason; during the 10-minute mandatory waiting time for his client to decide to go for a blood sample or stick with the breath test the cop wrote down:
"Start of ten minute period: 11:20pm"
"Finish of ten minute period: 11:30pm"

And commented: "Driver elected to stay with breath sample"



Lawyer says "How do you know my client had a full ten minutes to decide, how do you know it was not nine minutes and fifty seconds, the minute hand might not have actually passed the hour, he may have changed his mind in those last 10 seconds"

Cops says "I can't prove he had the full ten minutes".

So client walks out a free man...

True story - and that's just one of them.

So how did the cop above screw-up - what could he have reasonably done better??

[Edbear]

True, and most of us these days see it for what it is.]

Well considering the number and quality of people who agree with me I couldn't care less what you think. As with our poor deluded Katman and his ilk, the fact that you are against me is comforting.

[Edbear]

And when a lawyer gets his client 'off' for the following reason; during the 10-minute mandatory waiting time for his client to decide to go for a blood sample or stick with the breath test the cop wrote down:
"Start of ten minute period: 11:20pm"
"Finish of ten minute period: 11:30pm"

And commented: "Driver elected to stay with breath sample"



Lawyer says "How do you know my client had a full ten minutes to decide, how do you know it was not nine minutes and fifty seconds, the minute hand might not have actually passed the hour, he may have changed his mind in those last 10 seconds"

Cops says "I can't prove he had the full ten minutes".

So client walks out a free man...

True story - and that's just one of them.

So how did the cop above screw-up - what could he have reasonably done better??

That is an indictment on the Judge!

[Madness]

And when a lawyer gets his client 'off' for the following reason; during the 10-minute mandatory waiting time for his client to decide to go for a blood sample or stick with the breath test the cop wrote down:
"Start of ten minute period: 11:20pm"
"Finish of ten minute period: 11:30pm"

And commented: "Driver elected to stay with breath sample"



Lawyer says "How do you know my client had a full ten minutes to decide, how do you know it was not nine minutes and fifty seconds, the minute hand might not have actually passed the hour, he may have changed his mind in those last 10 seconds"

Cops says "I can't prove he had the full ten minutes".

So client walks out a free man...

True story - and that's just one of them.

So how did the cop above screw-up - what could he have reasonably done better??

So this situation obviously isn't exclusive to the particular case you're reffering to, is it? Pretty fucking simple I would have thought, either write down the exact time (including seconds) or allow 11 minutes.

Sheesh, it's a wonder anyone gets convicted in this country.