David Bain vs The Crown - game over

[scumdog]

Are you sure of that?

He has been described as having low intelligence and I very much doubt he could have afforded a lawyer anyway.

'Afforded' a lawyer?


You don't need to worry about it, a lawyer will be provided regardless - you knew that though, didn't you??

[98tls]

You should read up about it Drew.

Makes for interesting reading.

Briefly...http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...48705608,d.aGc

[Drew]

You should read up about it Drew.

Makes for interesting reading.

Well there ya go.

Sucks to be him.

[Mushu]

'Afforded' a lawyer?


You don't need to worry about it, a lawyer will be provided regardless - you knew that though, didn't you??

Yea, a public defender who doesn't give a shit, I've had a couple of run ins with them, often they don't know the clients name, let alone the aspects of the case.

People don't always know the law, if they're being questioned as a suspect without being arrested they are often not aware they have the right to leave at any time. And it's not hard to believe that asking for a lawyer would give the impression of guilt.

Myself, I wouldn't speak to the police regarding anything more serious than a traffic violation without a lawyer whether under arrest or not.

[Drew]

All I know is this. "I want a lawyer" is the first thing anyone should say when arrested.

Scumdog, are people allowed to request a lawyer be present before a search warrant is carried out? No, not the rest of you cunts, just the dude who's answer is actual, and not theoretical.

[unstuck]

All I know is this. "I want a lawyer" is the first thing anyone should say when arrested.

Scumdog, are people allowed to request a lawyer be present before a search warrant is carried out? No, not the rest of you cunts, just the dude who's answer is actual, and not theoretical.

I got told no, but I didnt really want one anyway. Sorry, but I cant help being a cunt.

[scumdog]

All I know is this. "I want a lawyer" is the first thing anyone should say when arrested.

Scumdog, are people allowed to request a lawyer be present before a search warrant is carried out? No, not the rest of you cunts, just the dude who's answer is actual, and not theoretical.

Nup.

Not as its being executed.

(To my limited and obviously power hungry knowledge)

Unless somebody has been arrested.

Then it is 'as soon as practable'

[Drew]

Nup.

Not as its being executed.

(To my limited and obviously power hungry knowledge)

Unless somebody has been aressted.

Then it is 'as soon as practable'

Heh. Interesting.

Chur.

[Katman]

You don't need to worry about it, a lawyer will be provided regardless - you knew that though, didn't you??

Actually no, I wasn't aware of that.

Wouldn't you think though that if the police are questioning someone as a murder suspect that they should insist that a lawyer is present?

[Drew]

Actually no, I wasn't aware of that.

Wouldn't you think though that if the police are questioning someone as a murder suspect that they should insist that a lawyer is present?

If the suspect is dumb enough to not ask for one, how is it the cops problem?

[Edbear]

It's an autistic thing I heard.

I have to admit, after reading even more of that shit that went to the appeals court, I'm kinda swaying toward the "didn't do it" camp.

It was either Robin or David, mate. Look only at the evidence, all else is procedure and conjecture. Try to convict Robin on the evidence and you'd get laughed out of court.

[Katman]

If the suspect is dumb enough to not ask for one, how is it the cops problem?

I'm not saying it's the cops problem.

I'm suggesting that in the interest of complete transparency it would be wise that the police would ensure that a lawyer was there.

If they have no intention of stitching the suspect up surely the presence of a lawyer protects both the police and the suspect.

[Drew]

It was either Robin or David, mate. Look only at the evidence, all else is procedure and conjecture. Try to convict Robin on the evidence and you'd get laughed out of court.

Poorly written on my part.

I'm leaning toward the 'should get paid' camp.

[Crasherfromwayback]

It was either Robin or David, mate. Look only at the evidence, all else is procedure and conjecture.

You try to come across way more intelligent than you actually are. Yet you still don't know what a *fact* is.

[scumdog]

Actually no, I wasn't aware of that.

Wouldn't you think though that if the police are questioning someone as a murder suspect that they should insist that a lawyer is present?

What? - and get accused of pressuring the suspect into something ....