David Bain vs The Crown - game over

**Banditbandit** · 15th August 2013, 16:49

Originally Posted by oldrider

Kinda gives me a bob each way without blame, hey we could become a political team!

Kinda like the Māori Party - one from the left and one from the centre and one from ... ( ... errr ... ka turituri ahau ...)

**Drew** · 15th August 2013, 18:11

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Kinda like the Māori Party - one from the left and one from the centre and one from ... ( ... errr ... ka turituri ahau ...)

Can I be the one from the unknown?

I'll be the one who gets in trouble lots.

**oldrider** · 15th August 2013, 21:01

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Kinda like the Māori Party - one from the left and one from the centre and one from ... ( ... errr ... ka turituri ahau ...)

At least the Maori party got them (Maori) actively "involved" in the political tent instead of sucking up to Labour and getting ignored or patronised forever!

I think John Key treated the Maori party with real respect and appropriate mana despite the fact that critics claim he was only feathering his own nest.

Isn't that what MMP is all about anyway!

IMHO the Mana party is a step backwards as long as they rely on all the political dregs and drop-out's they can muster to bolster their numbers artificially!

**Banditbandit** · 16th August 2013, 16:56

Yes, I think you are right .. but while I have supported the Māori Party, I always thought it had the seeds of its own destruction within it .. the four MPs, Tariana, Hone, Peter and Te Ururoa (one of them is a relation so don't you lot go mouthing off about my whanau) because they are such a politically disparate group and would never really agree .. and would self-destruct.

Hone has already gone ... but I'm surprised the party has survived as it has ... and I would not exepct it to last much beyond the next election - especially in National do not win ... and a few months ago I thought National would romp in ... now I am not so sure ..

**Banditbandit** · 16th August 2013, 16:57

Originally Posted by Drew

Can I be the one from the unknown?

I'll be the one who gets in trouble lots.

Fuck - you and me both ... I have this innate ability to be in the shit with someone ...

**oldrider** · 16th August 2013, 21:02

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Yes, I think you are right .. but while I have supported the Māori Party, I always thought it had the seeds of its own destruction within it .. the four MPs, Tariana, Hone, Peter and Te Ururoa (one of them is a relation so don't you lot go mouthing off about my whanau) because they are such a politically disparate group and would never really agree .. and would self-destruct.

Hone has already gone ... but I'm surprised the party has survived as it has ... and I would not exepct it to last much beyond the next election - especially in National do not win ... and a few months ago I thought National would romp in ... now I am not so sure ..

I feel the wheels are in motion now for the NZ style of democracy to peak again: I.E.

The disenchanted electorate will vote the incumbents "out" as opposed to voting anyone "in"!

The electorate has nothing that they are convinced that they want to vote "in" so they go to the polls in an dispirited state of mind and we end up with a lucky dip scramble that sorts it's self into some semblance of order by compromise and cajoling to form a majority and from there a government is born!

The unsuccessful scurry around and form a sort of an opposition alignment and commence to suck the public trough dry for the next three to nine year cycle!

Such is MMP in NZ these temporary alliances are more aligned in loyalty to each other than they are to the electorate until the next couple of elections when it all starts over again and the electorate is pissed off enough to throw the incumbents off their perch again.

**Drew** · 17th August 2013, 08:51

Originally Posted by oldrider

I feel the wheels are in motion now for the NZ style of democracy to peak again: I.E.

The disenchanted electorate will vote the incumbents "out" as opposed to voting anyone "in"!

The electorate has nothing that they are convinced that they want to vote "in" so they go to the polls in an dispirited state of mind and we end up with a lucky dip scramble that sorts it's self into some semblance of order by compromise and cajoling to form a majority and from there a government is born!

The unsuccessful scurry around and form a sort of an opposition alignment and commence to suck the public trough dry for the next three to nine year cycle!

Such is MMP in NZ these temporary alliances are more aligned in loyalty to each other than they are to the electorate until the next couple of elections when it all starts over again and the electorate is pissed off enough to throw the incumbents off their perch again.

I expect you are right. What does that say about us? Deserve what we fucken get I reckon!

**Smifffy** · 17th August 2013, 17:53

Originally Posted by oldrider

I feel the wheels are in motion now for the NZ style of democracy to peak again: I.E.

The disenchanted electorate will vote the incumbents "out" as opposed to voting anyone "in"!

The electorate has nothing that they are convinced that they want to vote "in" so they go to the polls in an dispirited state of mind and we end up with a lucky dip scramble that sorts it's self into some semblance of order by compromise and cajoling to form a majority and from there a government is born!

The unsuccessful scurry around and form a sort of an opposition alignment and commence to suck the public trough dry for the next three to nine year cycle!

Such is MMP in NZ these temporary alliances are more aligned in loyalty to each other than they are to the electorate until the next couple of elections when it all starts over again and the electorate is pissed off enough to throw the incumbents off their perch again.

At the moment I really can't see any option that i would want to vote "IN".

**Ocean1** · 17th August 2013, 18:00

Originally Posted by Smifffy

At the moment I really can't see any option that i would want to vote "IN".

Just at the moment?

**Madness** · 10th January 2014, 17:44

Congratulations to the happy couple.

**haydes55** · 10th January 2014, 18:15

Originally Posted by Madness

Congratulations to the happy couple.

When asked what the risk of David Bain becoming a repeat offender was, the parole board replied "there's no family left to kill".

Uh oh.... Bain family, take two.

**jim.cox** · 10th January 2014, 21:46

Hope she got a bullet proof vest for a wedding present

**Akzle** · 11th January 2014, 05:53

i'm annoyed at the way this has been reported.
often:
"david bain, who served 13 years in jail after being convicted of killing his family (if you didn't know this you must have been under a rock) and was later released on a re trial..."
rather than
"david bain, who was wrongly convicted..."

but hey, noones stupid enough to believe the media... oooooooh. wait on

**oldrider** · 11th January 2014, 10:12

Originally Posted by Akzle

i'm annoyed at the way this has been reported.
often:
"david bain, who served 13 years in jail after being convicted of killing his family (if you didn't know this you must have been under a rock) and was later released on a re trial..."
rather than
"david bain, who was wrongly convicted..."

but hey, noones stupid enough to believe the media... oooooooh. wait on

Or even using words like ... wrongfully released at retrial by a suspect jury!