David Bain vs The Crown - game over

[Banditbandit]

He (David Bain) is the only living person who knows the answer to that assumption and Joe Karam won't let him say anything!

If he underwent a proved lie detector test ... the majority of us could live with the result ... the question is ... could he?

1 Bain claims he doesn't remember anything - I'm at least inclined to believe that

2 It has not been proven he killed his family - Robin Bain is a much stronger suspect and a stronger case can be made against him ...

3 Lie detectors do not work to a level that constitutes proof either way - they can be beaten ... and 3a If david truly doesn't remember then the lie detector test is irrelevant.

[oldrider]

Meanwhile "five" dead people have the crimes against them unaccounted for .... rust never sleeps and neither should Police or Justice, even in this fucked up country!

Somebody did it ... if it wasn't Robyn or David (?) ... they should be still looking further afield ... this crime deserves constant attention!

Compensation my arse!

[Banditbandit]

If it was Robin then it is four who were sinned against ... and one suicide ... and how are you going to hold Robin accountable???

And how about all the other unsolved murders in Godzone? Or maybe the moral outrage at the crimes against people in Iraq, Iran, SYria ???

If you feel moral outrage against one, surely you feel moral outrage against the rest ...

(I believe the police have held onto the view that david did it for so long that they are incapable of looking elsewhere ... )

[Edbear]

Who dunnit has been thrashed in this thread. IMHO, anyone who has objectively and thoroughly examined all the available evidence, and very little is unavailable, could only conclude that Robin could not have done it and the known, factual evidence points only to David. That's the factual evidence by the way, not the defenses speculative, possible, maybe's.

This thread has all the links and references should anyone want to re - argue it.

[Madness]

IMHO, anyone who has objectively and thoroughly examined all the available evidence, and very little is unavailable, could only conclude that Robin could not have done it and the known, factual evidence points only to David. That's the factual evidence by the way, not the defenses speculative, possible, maybe's.

Why'd they let him out then, smart-arse?

[Edbear]

Why'd they let him out then, smart-arse?

Don't tell me, let me guess. You haven't read everything to do with the case, have you? You haven't read this thread, either. In short, you know very little about it. That way you can believe and say whatever you like.

If you want to know why he was judged acquitted, may I politely suggest you read the trial notes?

[Madness]

Don't tell me, let me guess. You haven't read everything to do with the case, have you? You haven't read this thread, either. In short, you know very little about it. That way you can believe and say whatever you like.

If you want to know why he was judged acquitted, may I politely suggest you read the trial notes?

You're right, I've read fuck all about it. I'm not that interested & I have a life, unlike yourself. The fact is, I rate the opinion of the Privy Council, The High Court & the Jurors in the second trial above that of some old Joho battery salesman fuckwit who thinks he knows everything just because he's read some shit on the internet.

I know perfectly well why he was acquitted in the second trial. I want you to explain how you think that could have happened in light of (in your opinion) such irrefutable evidence.

[Edbear]

You're right, I've read fuck all about it. I'm not that interested & I have a life, unlike yourself. The fact is, I rate the opinion of the Privy Council, The High Court & the Jurors in the second trial above that of some old Joho battery salesman fuckwit who thinks he knows everything just because he's read some shit on the internet.

I know perfectly well why he was acquitted in the second trial. I want you to explain how you think that could have happened in light of (in your opinion) such irrefutable evidence.

I see no reason to argue with self - confessed ignorance and disinterest. Anyone who has to resort to foul mouthed name calling obviously lacks the necessary intellect for reasoned discussion.

[Madness]

I see no reason to argue with self - confessed ignorance and disinterest. Anyone who has to resort to foul mouthed name calling obviously lacks the necessary intellect for reasoned discussion.

So you've got nothing then. I thought as much.

[phill-k]

Compensation my arse!

Wonder if you would say my arse if one of your children had been imprisoned for 13 yrs and then later was found not guilty of the crime.

Or would you just say bad luck son just get on with your life all will be ok, and by the way don't feel any anger you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Edbear]

So you've got nothing then. I thought as much.

Well, when you have already proved you haven't read, can't read, don't read, and have no intention to read, I would be a mug to let you draw me into debating anything with you. I am not a mug.

Still, as long as you feel you are effectively stroking your own ego, you go ahead and feel as superior as you need to.

Now, let's get back on topic.

[Smifffy]

There's flogging a dead horse, and then there's you cunts standing around flailing at a greasy dark mark in the paddock where a dead horse used to be.

Congratulations to the bride and groom.

If he does ever get compo, I wonder what her rights are under whatever they call the matrimonial property act these days are.

[Madness]

Wank wank wank...

There's so much more to life than just reading, Ed.


Oh, wait... That's right. I keep forgetting you're a drug addled basket case.

Now, let's get back on topic.

Yeah, let's.

I do hope we see some little Bains arrive in the future. It would be lovely if David was to father some children and maybe even name them after his dead family members.

[Edbear]

Wonder if you would say my arse if one of your children had been imprisoned for 13 yrs and then later was found not guilty of the crime.

Or would you just say bad luck son just get on with your life all will be ok, and by the way don't feel any anger you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The not guilty verdict was a qualified one based on legal technicalities. Under the law as it stands, the defense was able to present enough evidence, though not the factual evidence from the scene of the crime, but legal terms and definitions that meant the guilty verdict was not proven beyond doubt.

Even the Privy Council, would not go as far as saying he was proved innocent.

If anyone had wanted to make a case against Robin, and remember nobody, not even Joe Karam would try that on, the case would have been laughed out of court. He simply could not have been the killer going by the factual evidence. People vilify the Police, but if they could have proved Robin did it, they would have mounted their case against him. In the beginning, they thought it was a murder - suicide, but that proved not to fit the facts as they emerged. Remember, too, that the defense only presented Robin as a probable alternative. They clearly said it was either Robin or David. There was no other person.

[oldrider]

Wonder if you would say my arse if one of your children had been imprisoned for 13 yrs and then later was found not guilty of the crime.

Or would you just say bad luck son just get on with your life all will be ok, and by the way don't feel any anger you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

The further North from the scene of the crime the stronger the "opinion" is that David is innocent of the crime!

That is why the defence wouldn't allow the trial to be held in Dunedin and many hold the belief that the Christchurch trial was suspect!

If you want to compensate him there is nothing stopping you .... just get the gorse out of your pocket and pay him ... I don't want to!