David Bain vs The Crown - game over

**Murray** · 6th July 2013, 10:40

Originally Posted by Madness

Come on, there's always a chance that you could come up with something at least half intelligent to say, even if by accident.

Heres red bling back at you - and I am not a cocksmoking gay bar loiterer

Practise what you preach dickhead

**Drew** · 6th July 2013, 10:44

Originally Posted by Katman

For a minute there I mistakenly thought that post came from scumdog.

You should do better than "not condone it" Drew - you should vehemently denounce it.

I hope for your sake you don't find yourself in a similar position one day.

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Even from you Drew....that is THE most retarded statement I've ever seen.

Not the scathing replies I'd hoped for to be honest. Some people are harder to wind up than my feeble mind can handle.

On a serious note though, a family member was once targeted and bullied by police for something (very bloody serious) on next to no grounds. His mother who works for the courts was appalled, and frightened by what they were put through. I was angry, very fuckin angry. I made a couple little stirs for the cops in the ways I could with the only tool at my disposal being a gixxer thou.

But I also know how many cops have personal lives in ruins, because the job demands so much. It is not hard for me to understand the pressures being put on them. They are understaffed, underpaid (in my opinion), and generally hated by the general public. Parents teach their kids to fear cops, rather than respect them and the uniform.

There is cultural fuck up on both sides of the thin blue line! I have no idea how or what could be done to fix it, but I know damn well it can't be just one sided.

**unstuck** · 6th July 2013, 10:49

Originally Posted by Drew

There is cultural fuck up on both sides of the thin blue line! I have no idea how or what could be done to fix it, but I know damn well it can't be just one sided.

Well put that man.

**oldrider** · 6th July 2013, 11:04

All this compensation money that some people want to pay David Bain is coming out of our own pockets!

Not some bottomless money bag that they think the government secretly owns! FFS!

Currently on evidence, He (David) does not deserve to be either "locked up or compensated"!

I say absolutely "no" to any compensation!

Anyone who wants to pay him compensation is free to do so out of their own pockets any time it suits them, just do it!

**Drew** · 6th July 2013, 11:08

Originally Posted by oldrider

Anyone who wants to pay him compensation is free to do so out of their own pockets any time it suits them, just do it!

Haven't there been a few 'whip arounds' for him already?

He's doing alright for himself I think. Got a job on his celebrity alone, a house to live in and furnished as soon as he got out.

Fuck him, I think it's more likely he did it than anyone else. I know his defense managed reasonable doubt, so he shouldn't be in jail though, so all is kinda right in the world.

**Katman** · 6th July 2013, 11:15

Originally Posted by Laava

Time for PD.

Always amuses me when people call for a thread to be PDed simply because their argument has worn so thin they have no straws left to clutch at.

**Drew** · 6th July 2013, 11:19

Originally Posted by Katman

Always amuses me when people call for a thread to be PDed simply because their argument has worn so thin they have no straws left to clutch at.

Always amuses me, when someone thinks they are winning an argument, on sheer volume of posts.

**Katman** · 6th July 2013, 11:36

Originally Posted by Drew

Always amuses me, when someone thinks they are winning an argument, on sheer volume of posts.

It has nothing to do with volume of posts Drew, it's to do with the content of posts.

Maybe you just don't read too good.

**Drew** · 6th July 2013, 11:43

Originally Posted by Katman

It has nothing to do with volume of posts Drew, it's to do with the content of posts.

Maybe you just don't read too good.

You're whole argument is "what if". And that's fair enough for establishing doubt. But you've done fuck all to convince ANYONE who didn't already, to believe that Robin was the killer. Simply because you (like the cops/defence lawyers and everyone else) simply have no proof.

So there is no winning or losing the argument, only one guy knows the truth. So unless you wanna go hang out with that fucken wierdo and try get it out of him, fuck up already!

**unstuck** · 6th July 2013, 11:51

**scumdog** · 6th July 2013, 11:51

Originally Posted by Katman

Have you ever had a police officer stand up in court and blatantly lie under oath in order to obtain a conviction against you?

I have.

Certainly wasn't me.
If somebody walks as a result of me sticking to the truth - well, good luck to them, nothing's worth telling a lie for.
If they're a career fuckwit/idiot they'll come again - and they do...

**Katman** · 6th July 2013, 12:03

Originally Posted by Drew

You're whole argument is "what if". And that's fair enough for establishing doubt. But you've done fuck all to convince ANYONE who didn't already, to believe that Robin was the killer. Simply because you (like the cops/defence lawyers and everyone else) simply have no proof.

So there is no winning or losing the argument, only one guy knows the truth. So unless you wanna go hang out with that fucken wierdo and try get it out of him, fuck up already!

There has been plenty of evidence provided to suggest that the Not Guilty verdict is the only verdict that should ever have been given.

As to the question of innocence, I'm aware of the fact that factual innocence is required for a compensation payout, however I'm more of the opinion that David Bain deserves compensation simply due to the fact that the police set about ensuring he didn't get a fair first trial.

**Katman** · 6th July 2013, 13:05

And further to the question of David's fingerprints imprinted in blood on the rifle, it turns out that the only fingerprints identified as David's were found on the forestock and they were in a reversed position - that is, in a position that has the barrel pointing backwards.

And bear in mind that tests performed on the blood taken from these fingerprints of David's returned a negative result for human DNA.

The police chose not to reveal this information at the first trial even though they made the presence of David's fingerprints on the rifle one of the principle points in their case against David.