Christchurch red zoners. And shit.

[Oscar]

i dont understand the question.

Are you saying they have not been paying rates?

Or just spouting diversionary irrelevant crap.

You are the master of irrelevant crap, so I'll defer to your expert knowledge.

[Drew]

... Like white africans.

You talkin albinos, or proper white dudes?

[mashman]

There's only 127 of them.

So you wouldn't be happy paying for the services for these people if you were a Christchurch tax/rate payer?

[Akzle]

You are the master of irrelevant crap, so I'll defer to your expert knowledge.

three posts later and you haven't answered the first question.

mashy... make him go away!!

You talkin albinos, or proper white dudes?

it's called vitaligo. unfortunately smokey has the worst case of it...

[neels]

I think if they want to stay, let them stay, discount their rates bill for the services they are not being provided with.

If you look at the maps and add a bit of local knowledge, it doesn't take long to figure out that services to red zoned properties in many cases will have to be maintained, because they pass through red zoned areas to get to green zoned areas.

Just because someone has declined to accept an arbitary land zoning decision, and happen to be in the way of the sites for Gerry's personal pie factory and Bob's lizard people incubation centre, doesn't mean they should be denied essential services.

I have to wonder how they dreamed up the 50 million figure to maintain the services, if such a small part of the city costs that much then how is it that they can afford to reseal the roads in fendalton every 6 months whether they need it or not?

[blue rider]

what happen to all the love for chch and its inhabitants.

oh never mind....

[Berries]

what happen to all the love for chch and its inhabitants.

Alas that part of Manchester Street got munted.

[mashman]

three posts later and you haven't answered the first question.

mashy... make him go away!!

Nah mate, the dickheads all yours.

what happen to all the love for chch and its inhabitants.

oh never mind....

They had to go back to work and start fending for themselves again. C'est la vie.

[neels]

Alas that part of Manchester Street got munted.

Haven't been down there for a while then? Was in the paper the other day that the regulars have moved back in to their normal haunts, much to the relief of those living further north on Manchester street, who no longer have to clean up the mess from their front yards in the morning.

[HenryDorsetCase]

i think the red zoners in chch who are having their shit disconnected have an ideal opportunity to start an eco commune, off grid, seperate nation state,
'fter all, if the council/govt wont provide service, they cant claim contractual authority

yeah, sure. you forget that the state controls pretty much every aspect of life, plus tthere are other interested players like insurance companies and banks and all that. also the land is unsuitable for building and it is covered in broken houses and it is the middle of a pretty harsh winter so far. So yeah, next bright idea? Like all utopian ideas, yours is fatally flawed.

[Akzle]

yeah, sure. you forget that the state controls pretty much every aspect of life, plus tthere are other interested players like insurance companies and banks and all that. also the land is unsuitable for building and it is covered in broken houses and it is the middle of a pretty harsh winter so far. So yeah, next bright idea? Like all utopian ideas, yours is fatally flawed.

how?
. .

[Oscar]

three posts later and you haven't answered the first question.

mashy... make him go away!!

On the one hand, given that the authorities have red zoned the area, it would be unfair to charge them rates.
So if they want to stay there (on land that has been declared unfit for housing), it would be silly of them to expect that services would continue to be provided.

Why would you want help from that idiot, by the way?
Unlike him, you do occasionally make sense.

[SMOKEU]

... Like white africans.

No, we need more of them here.

[Akzle]

On the one hand, given that the authorities have red zoned the area, it would be unfair to charge them rates.
So if they want to stay there (on land that has been declared unfit for housing), it would be silly of them to expect that services would continue to be provided.

that still doesn't answer the question.
fact: they HAVE been paying rates.
SO, why should they not be receiving the 'services' that paying rates "entitles people to"?

asides from anything, my whole point in this thread was that they should tell the council to gtfo and be all hippy commune.

and f*ck the council, if i decide i want to live in an earthquaked house, who are they to tell me to move?
if they decide tomorrow that you're too gay to live, are you going to walk to the camps or pay for the bullet yourself?
or piss and moan about it?

(one of) your fundamental problem( s) is that you have faith in authority.

No, we need more of them here.

no one needs any of them.
anywhere.
except my mate ballas. he can stay. the rest can gtfo.

[mashman]

no one needs any of them.
anywhere.
except my mate ballas. he can stay. the rest can gtfo.

I've got one that I'd like to keep here too.