Boeing 777 crash at SF

[Banditbandit]

Gravity sucks ... especially if you're in a plane ...

[unstuck]

It is the first time I have seen the head of an airline apologize for a plane crash . Seemed genuine too.

[5150]

Latest on the accident:

On Jul 7th the NTSB reported in a press conference at San Francisco Airport, the crew was cleared for a visual approach to runway 28L, the crew acknowledged, flaps were set at 30 degrees, gear was down, Vapp was 137 knots, a normal approach commenced, no anomalies or concerns were raised within the cockpit, 7 seconds prior to impact a crew member called for speed, 4 seconds prior to impact the stick shaker activated, a call to go-around happened 1.5 seconds prior to impact, this data based on a first read out of the cockpit voice recorder. According to flight data recorder the throttles were at idle, the speed significantly decayed below target of 137 knots - the exact value not yet determined -, the thrust levers were advanced and the engines appeared to respond normally. The NTSB confirmed the PAPIs runway 28L were available to the approaching aircraft before the accident, however were damaged in the accident and thus went out of service again. The localizer was available, the glideslope was out of service, according NOTAMs were in effect. There were no reports of windshear and no adverse weather conditions. The air traffic controller was operating normal, no anomaly was effective, until the controller noticed the aircraft had hit the sea wall. The controller declared emergency for the aircraft and initiated emergency response. ARAIB and Asiana personnel have arrived on scene and have joined the investigation. The Mayor of San Francisco reported runway 10L/28R was cleared for service.

Looks like possibly the crew allowed the a/c to get bellow the minimum VAPP.

[buggerit]

Rolls Royce Trent engines ????

Rooting a stewardess

The plane was said to be swaying about and too low and too fast then tried to pull up

We will have to wait , I suppose

Stephen

Wrong flaps up?

[MD]

Latest on the accident:

On Jul 7th the NTSB reported in a press conference at San Francisco Airport, the crew was cleared for a visual approach to runway 28L, the crew acknowledged, flaps were set at 30 degrees, gear was down, Vapp was 137 knots, a normal approach commenced, no anomalies or concerns were raised within the cockpit, 7 seconds prior to impact a crew member called for speed, 4 seconds prior to impact the stick shaker activated, a call to go-around happened 1.5 seconds prior to impact, this data based on a first read out of the cockpit voice recorder. According to flight data recorder the throttles were at idle, the speed significantly decayed below target of 137 knots - the exact value not yet determined -, the thrust levers were advanced and the engines appeared to respond normally. The NTSB confirmed the PAPIs runway 28L were available to the approaching aircraft before the accident, however were damaged in the accident and thus went out of service again. The localizer was available, the glideslope was out of service, according NOTAMs were in effect. There were no reports of windshear and no adverse weather conditions. The air traffic controller was operating normal, no anomaly was effective, until the controller noticed the aircraft had hit the sea wall. The controller declared emergency for the aircraft and initiated emergency response. ARAIB and Asiana personnel have arrived on scene and have joined the investigation. The Mayor of San Francisco reported runway 10L/28R was cleared for service.

Looks like possibly the crew allowed the a/c to get bellow the minimum VAPP.

Getting a bit techi-speaki there for us layman. I suspect a faulty flux capacitor.

Does half the world walk around filming every second of the day. Stuff have video of the landing. Very convenient after the fact. But really, it begs the question why is someone always on the scene filming what, until a disaster occurred, was a really dull mundane scene?

[5150]

Getting a bit techi-speaki there for us layman. I suspect a faulty flux capacitor.

Does half the world walk around filming every second of the day. Stuff have video of the landing. Very convenient after the fact. But really, it begs the question why is someone always on the scene filming what, until a disaster occurred, was a really dull mundane scene?

Just for you then Put simply, while on approach to the airport and coming into the landing phase of the flight, they slowed the plane down too much, bellow allowable minimum and caused the plane to stall. The pilots paniked, pitched the plane up and applied full throttles. unfortunately too late. The plane slammed to the ground, sheered off its tail, landing gear and both engines. Then came to rest as it did, remaining fuel and torn electrical wiring probably caused the fire.

Hope that simplifies my technical explanation, which i by the way "borrowed" from another aviation web site.

[scumdog]

I have been watching a bit of that programe about plane crashes( mayday??) just lately, and the investigations into why they crashed. It is amazing how even just a small human error can cause such carnage. Seem to be mostly human error too. Very interesting.

Katman needs t know that.

I believe he thinks pilots are infallible... get it?
in fall ible..

[buggerit]

Katman needs t know that.

I believe he thinks pilots are infallible... get it?
in fall ible..

Terrible accident, some poeple may even say Kataclysmic

[unstuck]

Now now chaps... Oh fuck it.....

[huff3r]

I have been watching a bit of that programe about plane crashes( mayday??) just lately, and the investigations into why they crashed. It is amazing how even just a small human error can cause such carnage. Seem to be mostly human error too. Very interesting.

Aircraft are getting more reliable everyday. People not so much.

[jonbuoy]

Aircraft are getting more reliable everyday. People not so much.

People seem horrified at the thought of computers alone running flights - majority of crashes in recent times seem to be from pilot error. Maybe they do so little "real" flying they forget the basics!

[unstuck]

Trainee pilot too by the sounds. What happens with his career now, will he be allowed to fly again. Gotta sux knowing you fucked up that big.

[Drew]

Katman needs t know that.

I believe he thinks pilots are infallible... get it?
in fall ible..

You're terrible Marial.

[jellywrestler]

You're terrible Marial.

think you'll find it's Muriel ya waxhead!

[Drew]

think you'll find it's Muriel ya waxhead!

She spent the whole movie getting her sister to call her Mariel. When she decided to go back to Muriel, the sister said. "You're terrible Mariel".

I am saddened at myself, for knowing that.