Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[TheDemonLord]

Hadn't noticed that actually - had to go back and check - but hey maybe all of that and your reaction says more about you than about him?

That he's not an actual doctor and his phony degrees aren't worth spit and his entire blog is an attempt at Argument from Authority?

[TheDemonLord]

Can anyone point me to where I might find info on what ACC might have paid out in vaccine injury compensation over the years?

At a guess, I'd say you would have to request that, but even then the data is likely to be incomplete (considering that unlike the US, our free Healthcare system would cover a lot of the costs that the US system would have to pay out in a settlement)

I'll admit it would be interesting - but again, the rate of incidence is astronomically low.

[Katman]

I'll admit it would be interesting - but again, the rate of incidence is astronomically low.

If the US Vaccine Courts have paid out 3.3 billion dollars in compensation over the last 30 years or so, why do you think they're currently sitting on a nest egg of 3.5 billion dollars in the fund?

Are they preparing themselves for an astronomical increase in the number of compensation claims?

Or is the whole system just another way to make money?

[TheDemonLord]

If the US Vaccine Courts have paid out 3.3 billion dollars in compensation over the last 30 years or so, why do you think they're currently sitting on a nest egg of 3.5 billion dollars in the fund?

Are they preparing themselves for an astronomical increase in the number of compensation claims?

Or is the whole system just another way to make money?

Probably the Latter, or there may be some mandate that dictates they have to have x amount, where x is a function of how many vaccinations are done.

[Katman]

....or there may be some mandate that dictates they have to have x amount, where x is a function of how many vaccinations are done.

That almost sounds like a guilty conscience.

[TheDemonLord]

That almost sounds like a guilty conscience.

Of course it does....








If you are a delusional loony who sees conspiracy in everything

[Katman]

Of course it does....








If you are a delusional loony who sees conspiracy in everything

Why would they have a mandate like that for any other reason than preparing for a worst possible scenario?

[Akzle]

Except you have not proved (by the same standard you are trying to hold a Deity to) that my Dragon doesn't exist.

(And besides, I listen to Metal, and Dragons are Metal as Fuck)

no. the'yre objectively not.

my presupposition of your dragon, as with your presupposition of god, is negative.

But suppose the Human gave an answer - by your reasoning, the Answer MUST be valid (if we are talking about matters of perception),

jesus, with all of your words in my mouth how can i be expected to say anything else

Unless of course what was being referred to as Purple was in fact Chocolate - and therein lies the fundamental flaw with Perception.

one can define god. fairly unequivocably. and one can state, equally unequivocably, that >80% of adults experience or perceive god.

Close, but no Cigar. That argument pre-supposes that God is the default position. What evidence have you got that God should be the default position?

My position is that the default is no God, there is no evidence to prove god, therefore there is nothing to change my position from there being a god.

what evidence... I know god.
your failure to be able to measure or perceive that/it really isn't my problem.

Nope, a Key attribute of any Deity is that they are personal and have conscious and will - Laws do not, they are constants.

according to whom.

and, what laws are constant

But we have (with limited replication) been able to induce a religious experience by subjecting parts of the brain with Magnetic fields - which then brings us to occams razor:

If we can replicate the experience in a Lab, using things occuring in nature (magnetic fields certainly exist) what is more likely: An all powerful being that exists outside of natural world or you were experiencing the effects of a specific Magnetic field, effectively tripping balls.

so too can be induced by yoga, or simply breathing differently, or in the abcense of those specific magnetic fields (or, "any" fields).

your argument = hitting you in the head with a bat would cause a headache.
but that does not mean every headache (there's another one for you to explain) was caused by a bat.

It's broader than that, but Okay then, show my a religion that doesn't have some form of creation Myth?

don't bring religion into it. it's against the rules.

The Point. You missed it.

All of The Points. You missed .

Mashman, is that you? Are you saying that none of the things you do are innate to you as a human, you as a mammal, you as a social creature (with the biological definition of Social being used)?

no. but it is something he opened my eyes to.
how, if god is not innate, have so many come to know it? if your ideas are right, you being human (i assume), your ideas must be innate, why do most people disagree with you?

Not all, but most do in some form or another, and almost all have creation myths - the point being there is a repeating pattern of things that are associated with any deistic belief, may not have all of them, but all have some of them.

the point actually being, that in a world before internets, how did remote cultures with no scientifically known means of communication, come up with pretty much the exact same stories, at the exact same times.

[Katman]

And let's not forget that it's not the pharmaceutical industry that has stumped up the 3.3 billion in compensation already paid and the 3.5 billion squirreled away for a rainy day.

It's the US taxpayer.

So the pharmaceutical industry isn't even responsible for compensating for the damage their products may cause.

[yokel]

When a discussion turns to whether God exists then you've run out of bullshit to bring up.

BTW DNA is no random accident.

[Banditbandit]

BTW DNA is no random accident.

Now I suppose you're going to tell us it was "false flag" ???

[Katman]

Not all, but most do in some form or another, and almost all have creation myths - the point being there is a repeating pattern of things that are associated with any deistic belief, may not have all of them, but all have some of them.

Your problem is in your perception of 'god'.

My perception of 'god' is an all encompassing energy source.

The sort of energy source that makes atoms vibrate.

[TheDemonLord]

Why would they have a mandate like that for any other reason than preparing for a worst possible scenario?

If the approximate rate of side effects is known, then it would be prudent to have a fund based on anticipating the number cases of side effects.

See. No Conspiracy needed.

[Katman]

If the approximate rate of side effects is known, then it would be prudent to have a fund based on anticipating the number cases of side effects.

Well 3.5 billion dollars should cover a fair few 'severe allergic reactions' at least.

[TheDemonLord]

Your problem is in your perception of 'god'.

My perception of 'god' is an all encompassing energy source.

The sort of energy source that makes atoms vibrate.

Then why call it God?