Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Time to dredge.

http://www.quickmeme.com/p/3vqjb0

[oldrider]

Yeah and doctors and hospitals don't kill people inadvertently either .... do they? .. How do their statistics stack up against the road toll?

Don't know where to find but was sure surprised last time I saw it published in the "media" somewhere!

[Ocean1]

Yeah and doctors and hospitals don't kill people inadvertently either .... do they? .. How do their statistics stack up against the road toll?

Aye, more people die in hospital than anywhere else. Which is wonderfully shocking and quirky. And completely meaningless of course.

Perhaps what might be a good question if you’re looking to evaluate the health industry’s performance is “how long do we live without ‘em?

Humans by Era, Average Lifespan (in years)
• Neanderthal, 20
• Neolithic, 20
• Classical Greece, 28
• Classical Rome, 28
• Medieval England, 33
• End of 18th Century, 37
• Early 20th Century, 50
• Circa 1940, 65
• Current (in the West), 77-81

But you know that, John, you were there for most of that.

[oldrider]

Aye, more people die in hospital than anywhere else. Which is wonderfully shocking and quirky. And completely meaningless of course.

Perhaps what might be a good question if you’re looking to evaluate the health industry’s performance is “how long do we live without ‘em?



But you know that, John, you were there for most of that.

True we live longer but nobody tells you that is going to "hurt"! (don't undervalue the technical advances that contribute to our ""longevity"")

[Ocean1]

True we live longer but nobody tells you that is going to "hurt"!

They did so, your mother told you, you just didn't listen.

(don't undervalue the technical advances that contribute to our ""longevity"")

Difficult to overvalue this: http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/95394...to-stop-ageing

[Brett]

* Latest News*

Immunisation has been shown to have a direct correlation with HIV/AIDS and cancer.

#time to start a new rumour so that the hippies can keep on believing it's all a conspiracy by Kim Jong Un to bring down the west #misinformed #have ZERO understanding of biology or chemistry #got their education from a wheatbix box.

[Akzle]

* Latest News*

Immunisation has been shown to have a direct correlation with HIV/AIDS and cancer.

#time to start a new rumour so that the hippies can keep on believing it's all a conspiracy by Kim Jong Un to bring down the west #misinformed #have ZERO understanding of biology or chemistry #got their education from a wheatbix box.

actually i think its trending against 'the west'.
Little yella' not so scary after nam. Try keep up grampa.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Has anyone posted the Penn and Teller riposte to the anti vaccination loonies? No? well, here you go:

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Has anyone posted the Penn and Teller riposte to the anti vaccination loonies? No? well, here you go:

Lol. Love it! So fucking true too.

[idb]

Aye, more people die in hospital than anywhere else. Which is wonderfully shocking and quirky. And completely meaningless of course.

Perhaps what might be a good question if you’re looking to evaluate the health industry’s performance is “how long do we live without ‘em?



But you know that, John, you were there for most of that.

We could easily lower the death rate in hospitals by keeping sick people out of them.

[Ocean1]

We could easily lower the death rate in hospitals by keeping sick people out of them.

Absolutely.

And that'll become even more true if we don't get a handle on antibiotic-resistant superbugs.

[oldrider]

Absolutely.

And that'll become even more true if we don't get a handle on antibiotic-resistant superbugs.

Well, it would help if there was even a smidgeon of recognition that ideas other than the status quo (drug company driven medicine) have some merit!

For instance:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmhHy...e_gdata_player

[Ocean1]

Well, it would help if there was even a smidgeon of recognition that ideas other than the status quo (drug company driven medicine) have some merit!

For instance:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmhHy...e_gdata_player

I don't have 26min to spare. But if you don't trust "big pharma" then your obvious choice is to not use their products.

Me, I've observed that their products are the single largest direct cause of our vastly extended lifespan and believe, by extension that their products are probably developed for efficacy first and profit second.

[Edbear]

I don't have 26min to spare. But if you don't trust "big pharma" then your obvious choice is to not use their products.

Me, I've observed that their products are the single largest direct cause of our vastly extended lifespan and believe, by extension that their products are probably developed for efficacy first and profit second.

I can't bling you twice in a row. That and a better standard of living in the West anyway. With my own 55 years of medical history covering a wide range of life threatening episodes, I would not be alive today without the recourse to conventional Western medicines.

I have spent more than I care to admit on alternative meds and treatments and had I listened to one practicer of the alternative, I would have died very quickly. While certainly not perfect and while mistakes have been made, only conventional Western medicine and treatment has ever worked for me. I owe my life to the Doctors, Surgeons and modern drugs. I have horror stories from personal experience of the dangers of the alternatives. My medical experiences began when I was six years old so I don't speak from only one incident.

Even as recently as two weeks ago, I have seen the results of two families who don't believe in vaccinating their children. I wish I could tell them but what can you say?

[mashman]

I don't have 26min to spare. But if you don't trust "big pharma" then your obvious choice is to not use their products.

Not much of a funguy are ya... psssst, it has nothing to do with bagging the medical profession in any way shape or form