Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[husaberg]

I got several things.

In short - Using new and more sensitive equipment - particles that could not be detected using previous methods are able to be detected.

This suggests that in time this method should be implemented to improve the purity of vaccinations

Next - the level of contamination was absolutely minute - suggesting that Manufacturers have taken all reasonable care and precautions

Then the paper posits that the presence of these Nano-particles may have some health concerns, but no causal link is confirmed - thus more study is needed on that.

Did you see anything in the ""Paper"" Katman linked about how some of those ""contaminants" are actually listed ingrediants in a lot of vaccines
Ie Adjuvants.
I was a bit suspicious as i was aware of their use. So i googled what was in them.
Guess what i found
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/co...adjuvants.html

Two adjuvants, aluminum and monophosphoryl lipid A, are used in some U.S. vaccines.
Aluminum gels or aluminum salts are vaccine ingredients that have been used in vaccines since the 1930s. Small amounts of aluminum are added to help the body build stronger immunity against the germ in the vaccine. Aluminum is one of the most common metals found in nature and is present in air, food, and water. The amount of aluminum present in vaccines is low and is regulated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).
Monophosphoryl lipid A has been used since 2009 in one vaccine in the US, Cervarix. This immune-boosting substance was isolated from the surface of bacteria. It has been tested for safety in tens of thousands of people and found to be safe.

Adjuvants have been used safely in vaccines for many decades.
Aluminum salts, such as aluminum hydroxide, aluminum phosphate, and aluminum potassium sulfate have been used safely in vaccines for more than 70 years. Aluminum salts were initially used in the 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s with diphtheria and tetanus vaccines after it was found that this addition strengthened the body’s immune response to these vaccines.
Monophosphoryl lipid A is a type of adjuvant that was developed more recently, as experts continue to increase their knowledge of how to stimulate certain specific elements of the body’s immune response to vaccines.

[Oakie]

Thanks for the reminder. I need to crack on and organise our staff 'flu vacs for this year so we get them done by the mid April. I knew this thread was useful for something.

[Katman]

Did you see anything in the ""Paper"" Katman linked about how some of those ""contaminants" are actually listed ingrediants in a lot of vaccines
Ie Adjuvants.
I was a bit suspicious as i was aware of their use. So i googled what was in them.
Guess what i found
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/co...adjuvants.html

The study quite clearly states that Aluminium is a common ingredient in vaccines.

The main point of the study was identifying 'contaminants' that are not listed as ingredients.

[Ocean1]

Some balance

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/20...contamination/

Be fair, dude, it wasn't easy to find, it was buried way down at item #6 on the first google page.

Along with the quantity's conversion to plain english: 0.0000000000000000000719%

Right beside the words: "Biologically irrelevant".

[Ocean1]

The study quite clearly states that Aluminium is a common ingredient in vaccines.

The main point of the study was identifying 'contaminants' that are not listed as ingredients.

Know what else contains aluminium?

The receptacles the ESM samples are stored in.

Prior to being exposed to close to 100% vacuum.

[Akzle]

Right beside the words: "Biologically irrelevant".

you and husabitch could both make that your signature.

though for vastly different reasons, you'll be pleased to hear.

[Drew]

The study quite clearly states that Aluminium is a common ingredient in vaccines.

The main point of the study was identifying 'contaminants' that are not listed as ingredients.

It's a paper. Not a study.

Essentially, some dudes decided to check some shit out with their new toy. What they found was a surprise.

[husaberg]

Be fair, dude, it wasn't easy to find, it was buried way down at item #6 on the first google page.

Along with the quantity's conversion to plain english: 0.0000000000000000000719%

Right beside the words: "Biologically irrelevant".

Yeah odd thats not the title "Biologically irrelevant"
I wonder what would happen if they used the same methodology on all sorts of other things, like apple,s peas and a sandwich.

[Katman]

Yeah odd thats not the title "Biologically irrelevant"
I wonder what would happen if they used the same methodology on all sorts of other things, like apple,s peas and a sandwich.

Do they inject apples, peas and sandwiches into the blood stream of new born children?

[husaberg]

Do they inject apples, peas and sandwiches into the blood stream of new born children?

Clearly not as a general rule no, but they also don't examine their contents with an electron microscope in the vain hope they can find 2/3's of buggar all, in some vain hope that they will excite paranoid conspiracy theorists such as yourself and then write what to the casual observer appears to be scary sounding articles stating they contain unlisted contaminants either.

[Ocean1]

Do they inject apples, peas and sandwiches into the blood stream of new born children?

Dude, get a grip, they breath more aluminium than that every day.

[husaberg]

Dude, get a grip, they breath more aluminium than that every day.

Ps i hope you have starting rollers and a big ol American pick up to drive them.
Take them to the beach and it will be Silica dust they will be breathing in NZ as well.
I shouldn't be an issue for Katman of course, as i understand it, he actually has no kids.
I wonder, does he actually vaccinate his pets?

[Katman]

Dude, get a grip, they breath more aluminium than that every day.

I don't quite know why you keep going on about aluminium (even though aluminium toxicity is well known about) since aluminium is already a well known ingredient of many vaccines.

Like I've already said, the perplexing issue of the study (yes Drew - the study) is the presence of unlisted 'contaminants' in the vaccines.

[Ocean1]

I don't quite know why you keep going on about aluminium (even though aluminium toxicity is well known about) since aluminium is already a well known ingredient of many vaccines.

Like I've already said, the perplexing issue of the study (yes Drew - the study) is the presence of unlisted 'contaminants' in the vaccines.

Because the "study" showed aluminium compounds as one of the "contaminants".

And it's only an "issue" if you're fuckwit enough to fail to understand that absolutely nothing is 100% "pure". In this case the "study" found that the vaccine with the highest level of "contaminants" was short by 0.0000000000000000000719%. Which is fucking amazingly pure.

But you know all that, because you read the appraisal husaberg posted, dincha? The one you'd have found yourself with half a minute's check of your original piece of bullshit. So why continue to pretend the data represents any sort of "issue" at all? Why pretend that it's anything other than a transparent piece of misdirection from a bunch of religious, anti-science fuckwits?

[Katman]

Because the "study" showed aluminium compounds as one of the "contaminants".

No it doesn't.

It lists aluminium as one of the 'elements' contained within the vaccine and also clearly states that this is to be expected as aluminium is commonly used in vaccines.

You should learn to read.