Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[bogan]

Which journal article would that be then?

The one published from the study you referred to; I mean shit son, you're the one telling the story here, how is it you don't have any of the detail?

[Katman]

The one published from the study you referred to;

I didn't refer to a study, did I?

[Virago]

So if they determined that the side-effects of the vaccine were the same as the side-effects of the aluminium adjuvant 'placebo', shouldn't they be trying to figure out why an aluminium adjuvant is producing those side-effects?

Do you have the clinic details to hand?

[bogan]

I didn't refer to a study, did I?

Trial, study, testing, journal article, who really gives a shit what it is called; you should be more aware of its content, rather than just parroting back the conclusions some charlatan has misinterpreted or outrightly made up.

[Katman]

Do you have the clinic details to hand?

Clearly I don't.

Did they do any research into why the aluminium adjuvant 'placebo' differed from the saline placebo?

[Katman]

Trial, study, testing, journal article, who really gives a shit what it is called; you should be more aware of its content, rather than just parroting back the conclusions some charlatan has misinterpreted or outrightly made up.

Except it clearly isn't made up.

Virago has just confirmed what the medical specialists stated in the video - that an aluminium adjuvant 'placebo' was used.

[bogan]

Except it clearly isn't made up.

Virago has just confirmed what the medical specialists stated in the video - that an aluminium adjuvant 'placebo' was used.

and.......

[Katman]

and.......

So tell me again how it's been debunked many times.

[bogan]

So tell me again how it's been debunked many times.

Perhaps you need more of a clue?

And, they also used a...

[Katman]

Perhaps you need more of a clue?

And, they also used a...

Are you hard of hearing?

Tell me again how they've debunked the story of the aluminium adjuvant 'placebo'.

[bogan]

Are you hard of hearing?

Tell me again how they've debunked the story of the aluminium adjuvant 'placebo'.

Oh right, you're back to semantics, they debunked the story that the vaccine was concluded to be safe only on the basis of an aluminium placebo.

[husaberg]

Did you know.....?

When testing was being done on the Gardasil vaccine (which contains a high level of aluminium) they compared it against a placebo which also contained aluminium.

They then stated that the side-effects of the vaccine were the same as the side-effects of the placebo - and therefore the vaccine was as safe as the placebo.

It sounds awfully like you don't actually know what an adjuvant does (ie its sole purpose for being in a vaccine). So you are just spouting off...again
An adjuvant is an ingredient of a vaccine that helps create a stronger immune response in the patient’s body.
This strong immune response preduced by the adjuvant is the symptoms/side effects you think is somehow pertinent
It’s thus therefor only surprising that the side effects were similar but only when you don't know what an adjuvant does.

Which is clearly obvious you don't.

Clearly I don't.
Did they do any research into why the aluminium adjuvant 'placebo' differed from the saline placebo?

and.......

So tell me again how it's been debunked many times.

Perhaps you need more of a clue?
And, they also used a...

hes giving you a strong clue

Are you hard of hearing?
Tell me again how they've debunked the story of the aluminium adjuvant 'placebo'.

You are still not getting it.

I eagerly await you next instalment of gish galloping floundering and downright stupidity.

[Katman]

It’s thus therefor only surprising that the side effects were similar but only when you don't know what an adjuvant does

Which is clearly obvious you don't.

I suspect you're the only one here retarded enough to actually believe that.

[Virago]

Except it clearly isn't made up.

Virago has just confirmed what the medical specialists stated in the video - that an aluminium adjuvant 'placebo' was used.

In true conspiracy theorist style, you're desperately trying to turn a positive into a negative.

They could have just used a saline placebo against the true vaccine. However in this case they put a third option in the process, which was the aluminium adjuvant placebo. This allowed a three-way comparison, and the ability to isolate the adjuvant response. I would have thought that this process would be lauded by the anti-vaxxers, but it would appear that some are too blinkered in their rabid response to see that.

Your original suggestion was that the adjuvant placebo was used, and you carefully omitted the use of the saline placebo (although your distorted sources may not have provided that important information for you).

Did you know.....?

When testing was being done on the Gardasil vaccine (which contains a high level of aluminium) they compared it against a placebo which also contained aluminium.

They then stated that the side-effects of the vaccine were the same as the side-effects of the placebo - and therefore the vaccine was as safe as the placebo.

As above, you continue to parrot the anti-vax dogma gleaned from seriously unreliable sources, and are quite open about having no data to back your claims. When asked for the data your response is to suggest that we find it ourselves. You're the one making the claims - how about you back yourself?

[Katman]

They could have just used a saline placebo against the true vaccine. However in this case they put a third option in the process, which was the aluminium adjuvant placebo. This allowed a three-way comparison, and the ability to isolate the adjuvant response. I would have thought that this process would be lauded by the anti-vaxxers, but it would appear that some are too blinkered in their rabid response to see that.

The side-effects of aluminium as an adjuvant is already well known.

The inclusion of the third option might just have easily been to provide the convenient fall-back line "look, it's no worse than the placebo".