Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Virago]

The side-effects of aluminium as an adjuvant is already well known.

The inclusion of the third option might just have easily been to provide the convenient fall-back line "look, it's no worse than the placebo".

Mindless conjecture.

[Katman]

Mindless conjecture.

Are you actually suggesting that the short term side-effects of aluminium as an adjuvant are still a mystery to them?

[husaberg]

I suspect you're the only one here retarded enough to actually believe that.

Your own posts speak volumes to you having no clue to how an Aduvant works or what it is included in the vaccine for

Did you know.....?
When testing was being done on the Gardasil vaccine (which contains a high level of aluminium) they compared it against a placebo which also contained aluminium.
They then stated that the side-effects of the vaccine were the same as the side-effects of the placebo.

Did they do any research into why the aluminium adjuvant 'placebo' differed from the saline placebo?

and.......

So tell me again how it's been debunked many times.

Perhaps you need more of a clue?
And, they also used a...

Are you hard of hearing?
Tell me again how they've debunked the story of the aluminium adjuvant 'placebo'.

This one is GOLD

So if they determined that the side-effects of the vaccine were the same as the side-effects of the aluminium adjuvant 'placebo', shouldn't they be trying to figure out why an aluminium adjuvant is producing those side-effects?

[Virago]

Are you actually suggesting that the short term side-effects of aluminium as an adjuvant are still a mystery to them?

Lol - what? I'm suggesting that you're indulging in mindless conjecture about their process and motives. As always though, if you have details to back your comments, I'd love to see them.

[Katman]

Your own posts speak volumes to you having no clue to how an Aduvant works or what it is included in the vaccine for

This one is GOLD

Are you under the impression that adjuvants have no side-effects?

I'm struggling to figure out what you're trying to say.

[Katman]

Lol - what? I'm suggesting that you're indulging in mindless conjecture about their process and motives. As always though, if you have details to back your comments, I'd love to see them.

Well, it's quite a valid observation.

If you can offer any other reason why they'd bother to "isolate the adjuvant response" when an aluminium adjuvant response is no mystery to them, I'd love to hear it.

[husaberg]

Are you under the impression that adjuvants have no side-effects?
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I am well aware of the effects from the use of adjuvants your continued display of total ignorance is however very funny
Would you rather they don't use an aduvant at all, would that make you happy.
imagine no localised swelling, no headaches, no raised temperature, its just one small issue though, you would be left with a vaccine that would not work.

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Did you know.....?
When testing was being done on the Gardasil vaccine (which contains a high level of aluminium) they compared it against a placebo which also contained aluminium.
They then stated that the side-effects of the vaccine were the same as the side-effects of the placebo.

Did they do any research into why the aluminium adjuvant 'placebo' differed from the saline placebo?

and.......

So tell me again how it's been debunked many times.

Perhaps you need more of a clue?
And, they also used a...

Are you hard of hearing?
Tell me again how they've debunked the story of the aluminium adjuvant 'placebo'.

This one is GOLD

So if they determined that the side-effects of the vaccine were the same as the side-effects of the aluminium adjuvant 'placebo', shouldn't they be trying to figure out why an aluminium adjuvant is producing those side-effects?

[bogan]

Well, it's quite a valid observation.

If you can offer any other reason why they'd bother to "isolate the adjuvant response" when an aluminium adjuvant response is no mystery to them, I'd love to hear it.

It's a control. This is seriously basic test methodology, you need to add control groups to isolate effects from the vaccine being tested. Things that appeared in the saline group are thus not caused by the vaccine or adjuvant placebo, things that appeared in the adjuvant placebo are similarly not cause by the vaccine only.

[Virago]

Well, it's quite a valid observation.

If you can offer any other reason why they'd bother to "isolate the adjuvant response" when an aluminium adjuvant response is no mystery to them, I'd love to hear it.

The test results I've seen make interesting reading. But as you've already claimed knowledge of the test outcome, I'm happy to defer to your detailed information (when it's forthcoming).

[Katman]

It's a control. This is seriously basic test methodology, you need to add control groups to isolate effects from the vaccine being tested. Things that appeared in the saline group are thus not caused by the vaccine or adjuvant placebo, things that appeared in the adjuvant placebo are similarly not cause by the vaccine only.

If a third 'control' group is common place in this sort of testing in order to isolate things that an already commonly used adjuvant causes, then I'll take that as a lesson for today.

Speaking of controls groups, it reminded me of this......

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1280369/

[bogan]

If a third 'control' group is common place in this sort of testing in order to isolate things that an already commonly used adjuvant causes then I'll take that as a lesson for today.

Speaking of controls groups, it reminded me of this......

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1280369/

Excellent, and it seems you found confirmation of yesterdays lesson as well, good shit

[Katman]

Excellent, and it seems you found confirmation of yesterdays lesson as well, good shit

Remind me, what was yesterday's lesson?

[husaberg]

testing in order to isolate things that an already commonly used adjuvant causes, then I'll take that as a lesson for today.

By jove only three pages and it seems he might have figured out what everyone else already knew

Speaking of controls groups, it reminded me of this......
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1280369/

Must be time for yet another Gish gallop then..........

[bogan]

Remind me, what was yesterday's lesson?

That thimersol doesn't contain ethylmercury; fair question though, that was only one of the many lessons.

[husaberg]

Remind me, what was yesterday's lesson?

That thimersol doesn't contain ethylmercury; fair question though, that was only one of the many lessons.

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I think we've established that the CDC believe thimerosal to be perfectly safe. are intent on having us believe that thimerosal is perfectly safe.
There are others who are not so convinced though.

So do you actually have any evidence at all that thimerosal is not safe? or is it just one of your gut feelings like the shapeshifting lizards elvis being alive 911 and JFK?.........
Because the CDC have actual studies that show it to be safe.

There is no shortage of evidence showing the toxicity of thimerosal.I'm sure you can find it if you're sufficiently interested.

If there is no shortage of evidence you will have no trouble posting it then?.So post it or shut up.

Fuck off and find it yourself.

So i take it, as per normal, you don't have any actual evidence then? gee thats a surprise

He never did post that evidence, he claimed there was no shortage of