Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Katman]

And if you want to talk unethical behaviour......

http://articles.latimes.com/1996-06-...easles-vaccine

[Katman]

And speaking of conflicts of interest, Dr Paul Offit, who is a pediatric professor at The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (which has very close financial connections with Merck) sat on the advisory committee who were voting whether to include the Rotavirus vaccine to the schedule.

Turns out Dr Paul Offit already owned a patent (in conjunction with the Children's Hospital) to a Rotavirus vaccine but instead of excusing himself from the vote, he voted for it and then went on to sell the patent for $182 million.

[bogan]

Well, you know what they say - "every person cured is a customer lost".

Source?

Faaaaark

I go on-call for one week and suddenly there's a flurry of Posts!

If by posts you also mean posts that KM's horse has gish galloped past, then yes. The fucker must be on steroids to be running so strongly

He was trying to address technical stuff for a while too, rather than the normal he said she said, or this bloke is corrupt therefore all big pharma have kitten smoothies for breakfast or whatever; I even taught him about how important the basic technique of control groups were.

[husaberg]

Source?



If by posts you also mean posts that KM's horse has gish galloped past, then yes. The fucker must be on steroids to be running so strongly

He was trying to address technical stuff for a while too, rather than the normal he said she said, or this bloke is corrupt therefore all big pharma have kitten smoothies for breakfast or whatever; I even taught him about how important the basic technique of control groups were.

He will have forgotten it by now.
Viragos a patient bugger,, he told him the same thing almost 7 times before it permeated through stevo’s tin foil hat.

[Katman]

He will have forgotten it by now.
Viragos a patient bugger,, he told him the same thing almost 7 times before it permeated through stevo’s tin foil hat.

Well, before you go crowing too loudly we should take a closer look at that study you linked.

The authors chose 2 countries to compare against America's infant mortality rate and concluded that it showed the US figure could be skewed by 40%.

That's 2 countries. Remember the derision expressed over the fact that Andrew Wakefield's study included only 12 children?

Do we know whether the authors chose those 2 countries specifically because they classify certain early gestation births as stillborn?

In order for the study to stand up to close scrutiny we would need to know how many other countries classify those births similarly. (I'm sure if the study does contain that information someone will be kind enough to point it out).

I mean, heaven forbid that an author might be selective in their comparisons in order to knowingly misrepresent a conclusion.

[husaberg]

Well before you go crowing too loudly we should take a closer look at that study you linked.

The authors chose 2 countries to compare against America's infant mortality rate and concluded that the US figure could be skewed by 40%.

That's 2 countries. Remember the derision expressed over the fact that Andrew Wakefield's study included only 12 children?

Do we know whether the authors chose those 2 countries specifically because they classify certain early gestation deaths as stillborn?

In order for the study to stand up to close scrutiny we would need to know how many other countries classify those births similarly. (I'm sure if the study does contain that information someone will be kind enough to point it out).

I mean, heaven forbid that an author would be selective in their comparisons in order to knowingly misrepresent a conclusion.

Incorrect there were two reasons the data is skewed one is economic relative wealth race variation. the other is the different way the US birth stats are listed. PS they also still use feet inches and yards as well.
Andrew Wakefield handpicked the patients to suit his result , made up where they were from, made up diagnosis, paid for samples, ordered tests he had no good reason, and failed to disclose a huge conflict of interest. plus many more things as well. He did so, as he was developing his own Vaccine and was getting paid by lawyers in a lawsuit. all undisclosed.
He also made up results all these facts were proven. Funny enough not one person has been able to replicate his results.
Those studies refer to all the birth in the usa all the births Finland etc
The three countries were chosen as the US was ranked poor Finland and i think Demark were ranked high.
You yourself started on the USA as an example.

Interesting to note too, America has the highest number of vaccines for children within their first 12 months (26 vaccines) and yet they also have one of the highest infant mortality rate for first world countries.

Because you asked so nicely.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/

As i am feeling sorry for you here is an article written for someone who lacks basic understanding of case studdies and data.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.240e87de3f17

[Katman]

The fucker must be on steroids to be running so strongly

I've got you to thank for encouraging me to educate myself by watching the video series.

[bogan]

I've got you to thank for encouraging me to educate myself by watching the video series.

If your horse wasn't so afraid to drink, you would be able to skip the middle man, and just thank me for educating you.

[Ocean1]

Not really the same thing though, is it?

I'm not the one who gets to mandate what motorcyclists have to wear.

Yeah, I'm afraid it is. You get to pass / fail a WOF doncha?

Fuuuuge conflict of interest there, innit.

You hypocritical cunt, you.

[husaberg]

Yeah, I'm afraid it is. You get to pass / fail a WOF doncha?

Fuuuuge conflict of interest there, innit.

You hypocritical cunt, you.

He no doubt doesn't do warrants on account of "The MAN"
Plus the "BIG VTNZ"" conspiracy in conjuction with "BIG LTSA"
Maybe he could make a "video" about it all

[Katman]

Yeah, I'm afraid it is. You get to pass / fail a WOF doncha?

And if I fail a bike I make absolutely no sales pitch whatsoever. I leave it entirely up to the customer to make the inquiry as to whether I can take care of what needs addressing.

I'm integrous like that.

[bogan]

And if I fail a bike I make absolutely no sales pitch whatsoever. I leave it entirely up to the customer to make the inquiry as to whether I can take care of what needs addressing.

I'm integrous like that.

I don't think you quite understand the concept of 'conflict of interest' you see, the person it applies to, is not simply allowed to say there is none because they will act with integrity; because you know what that would be right? A conflict of interest

[husaberg]

And if I fail a bike I make absolutely no sales pitch whatsoever. I leave it entirely up to the customer to make the inquiry as to whether I can take care of what needs addressing.

I'm integrous like that.

Sounds like a conspircy cover up.......
Thats totally what you wold say if you wwere trying to c=over up,
Lets be honest here,You wouldn't believe that post now would you.

[Katman]

If your horse wasn't so afraid to drink, you would be able to skip the middle man, and just thank me for educating you.

A question for you....

Do you think Science ever reaches a point where it can say it's 'done'? (Done as in concluded)

[TheDemonLord]

A question for you....

Do you think Science ever reaches a point where it can say it's 'done'? (Done as in concluded)

To ask that question, is to demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding as to the Nature of Science.