Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[TheDemonLord]

There's that logical point that I'm unable to argue against again.

Fixed for you.

You know that every time you resort to name-calling, you are pretty much confirming that you are incapable of actual discussion and have no counter-argument to make (and by extension are therefore conceding the point)

And on that note:

Autists 2, Conspiracy fuckwits 0.

[Doppleganger]

Fixed for you.

You know that every time you resort to name-calling, you are pretty much confirming that you are incapable of actual discussion and have no counter-argument to make (and by extension are therefore conceding the point)

And on that note:

Autists 2, Conspiracy fuckwits 0.

Mate! 244 pages!!! don't feed the troll, he's at home wanking his brains out over all the attention.......

[Katman]

You know that every time you resort to name-calling, you are pretty much confirming that you are incapable of actual discussion and have no counter-argument to make (and by extension are therefore conceding the point)

And on that note:

Autists 2, Conspiracy fuckwits 0.

Oh dear, there's that unmistakable odour of extreme ironing again.

[bogan]

I'll see if I can find the actual quote - my memory is that is was said by the commander who OK'd the Raid.

I'd also point out that the principle that it is better to attempt to help (even if that results in death and suffering) than stand by and do nothing is substantiated by Good Samaritan Laws and Duty to rescue laws.

Which gets to be a bit of a grey area, who decides who is giving freedom, and who is giving oppression? especially when both are delivered through the use of weaponry. I read some interesting sci-fi dealing with this point, the upshot was that a population could vote (anonymously, through tech) for armed intervention to overthrow the current govt and join a union thing, but had to have 80% majority or something like that to offset the destruction such an intervention would cause.

[TheDemonLord]

Oh dear, there's that unmistakable odour of extreme ironing again.

Well, it is the season for the common Cold....

[TheDemonLord]

Which gets to be a bit of a grey area, who decides who is giving freedom, and who is giving oppression? especially when both are delivered through the use of weaponry. I read some interesting sci-fi dealing with this point, the upshot was that a population could vote (anonymously, through tech) for armed intervention to overthrow the current govt and join a union thing, but had to have 80% majority or something like that to offset the destruction such an intervention would cause.

You got the name of that Sci-fi?

For sure though, its a massive moral and ethical quagmire - Me personally, I think there are a reasonable set of standards:

Not using NBCs on your own population
Not being complicit in the torture of your own population
Not committing Genocide
Not allowing criminal or terrorist elements to operated unabated.

I'm sure there's others that could be listed - but the above covers off the worst of the worst. Then it becomes not who is free and who is oppressed, more a case of who is meeting the minimum standard to not get carpet bombed and who is volunteering for a B52 sized TNT delivery.

[bogan]

You got the name of that Sci-fi?

For sure though, its a massive moral and ethical quagmire - Me personally, I think there are a reasonable set of standards:

Not using NBCs on your own population
Not being complicit in the torture of your own population
Not committing Genocide
Not allowing criminal or terrorist elements to operated unabated.

I'm sure there's others that could be listed - but the above covers off the worst of the worst. Then it becomes not who is free and who is oppressed, more a case of who is meeting the minimum standard to not get carpet bombed and who is volunteering for a B52 sized TNT delivery.

Might have been some Neal Asher I think.

Yeh but it is still reliant on an agreement or judgement from those outside the population being 'freed', which I don't disagree with as an unfortunate necessity, but it shouldn't be touted as the way things should be.

[bogan]

Good News, the conspiracy morons are not allowed to harm kids in france!

[Katman]

Good News, the conspiracy morons are not allowed to harm kids in france!

10 deaths from 24,000 cases over an 8 year period.

Like I've said, more kids die in their parents swimming pools.

And more New Zealand kids were beaten to death by their parents in that period.

[bogan]

10 deaths from 24,000 cases over an 8 year period.

Like I've said, more kids die in their parents swimming pools.

And more New Zealand kids were beaten to death by their parents in that period.

Indeed, now there is legislation to prevent all 3 of those things! What wonderful times we live in

[Katman]

Indeed, now there is legislation to prevent all 3 of those things! What wonderful times we live in

And the only downside seems to be that we have to put up with an ever increasing number of retarded cunts like you, TDL and berkboy.

[bogan]

And the only downside seems to be that we have to put up with an ever increasing number of retarded cunts like you, TDL and berkboy.

Not quite seeing the link there, do you think those who point out other's irrationality is a sign of retardism?

[Katman]

https://worldmercuryproject.org/what...-sleight-hand/

[bogan]

https://worldmercuryproject.org/what...-sleight-hand/

We've been over this, the VAERS database is user submitted data, and does not require any medical diagnosis for cause of adverse effect. It's basically a popularity contest for vaccination, but one where they don't bother counting the votes of people who think vaccines are a good thing.

[Katman]

We've been over this, the VAERS database is user submitted data, and does not require any medical diagnosis for cause of adverse effect. It's basically a popularity contest for vaccination, but one where they don't bother counting the votes of people who think vaccines are a good thing.

And if you'd read the government report that the article links to, you'd have seen that less than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported to the FDA.

But we're well aware of your aversion to reading about stuff you choose to comment on.