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[Graystone]

Any previous analysis of aluminium levels in non-autistic brains, I presume.

You presume? if it is not covered in the article the only rational presumption is that there was no control group. Which is in keeping with their findings that there is no reason not to do more studies on this, but it underscores the obvious limitation of the study and its inabilty to deliver any sort of result.

[Katman]

You presume? if it is not covered in the article the only rational presumption is that there was no control group. Which is in keeping with their findings that there is no reason not to do more studies on this, but it underscores the obvious limitation of the study and its inabilty to deliver any sort of result.

Perhaps you should contact the journal and let them know that you object to the publication of the study.

(And I even quoted the bit where the study authors themselves pointed out the study's limitations).

[Katman]

And to be a little more specific, the study is comparing the findings with the figure of less than 1 microgram per gram of aluminium in the brain - a level that is considered 'benign' as opposed to 'safe'.

[Graystone]

Perhaps you should contact the journal and let them know that you object to the publication of the study.

(And I even quoted the bit where the study authors themselves pointed out the study's limitations).

Are you no longer engaging in a rational discussion about the content? I don't object to the publication at all, and while they did point out the sample size limitation, they did not point out a lack of control group. They did mention a previous measurements but only saw fit to include their own.

And to be a little more specific, the study is comparing the findings with the figure of less than 1 microgram per gram of aluminium in the brain - a level that is considered 'benign' as opposed to 'safe'.

That figure does not seem to be supported anywhere, their reference is to their own work which has a sample size of one. Do they have any evidence to say the aluminium content in the 5 brains they tested this time is higher than normal?

[Katman]

That figure does not seem to be supported anywhere, their reference is to their own work which has a sample size of one. Do they have any evidence to say the aluminium content in the 5 brains they tested this time is higher than normal?

You either haven't read the study or your comprehension of English is lacking.

Read page 6 of the study a little more carefully.

Get someone to help you with any big words.

[Graystone]

You either haven't read the study or your comprehension of English is lacking.

Read page 6 of the study a little more carefully.

Get someone to help you with any big words.

Page 6 is where they tell us what the level categories are, but the only reference in that page is [15], one to their own study which has a sample size of one donor brain. So surely it is wise to question if those levels are valid?

[Katman]

Page 6 is where they tell us what the level categories are, but the only reference in that page is [15], one to their own study which has a sample size of one donor brain. So surely it is wise to question if those levels are valid?

The study referenced at [15] has two authors in common with this study.

Have you got a link to the study that shows it only uses 1 brain as a sample?

[Graystone]

The study referenced at [15] has two authors in common with this study.

Have you got a link to the study that shows it only uses 1 brain as a sample?

15. A. Mirza, A. King, C. Troakes, C. Exley, The identification of aluminium in human brain
tissue using lumogallion and fluorescence microscopy, J. Alzh. Dis. 54 (2016) 1333-1338.

I just googled that title to find https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5088403/ "The donor was a 69-year-old man, originally from the town of Camelford, Cornwall, and known to have been exposed to aluminum during this, now, infamous event when 20 tons of aluminum sulphate were inadvertently added to the potable water supply"

[Katman]

I just googled that title to find https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5088403/ "The donor was a 69-year-old man, originally from the town of Camelford, Cornwall, and known to have been exposed to aluminum during this, now, infamous event when 20 tons of aluminum sulphate were inadvertently added to the potable water supply"

Then it would be fairly safe to presume it wasn't his brain that allowed them to determine the 'benign' level of 1 microgram/gram.

[Graystone]

Then it would be fairly safe to presume it wasn't his brain that brought them to the 'benign' level of 1 microgram/gram.

So what did?

[Katman]

So what did?

I don't know.

I wasn't one of the authors of the study.

[Graystone]

I don't know.

I wasn't one of the authors of the study.

Then something is lacking, either you need to read the study better, or they need to write it better. Their whole 'findings' such as they are, are predicated on the acceptance of those levels being a benchmark, without that...

I'd suggest looking through the other references, it is possible it was an honest mistake and they just cocked up the reference numbering.

[Katman]

Then something is lacking, either you need to read the study better, or they need to write it better. Their whole 'findings' such as they are, are predicated on the acceptance of those levels being a benchmark, without that...

I'd suggest looking through the other references, it is possible it was an honest mistake and they just cocked up the reference numbering.

Maybe you should voice your concerns to the journal editors.

[Graystone]

Maybe you should voice your concerns to the journal editors.

Do you want a rational discussion or not?

[Woodman]

Do you want a rational discussion or not?

Good luck with that..................