Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Katman]

It would be hilariously karmic, if it wasn't for the small fact of Parents having to bury their Children.

Do you know where the Controversy doesn't exist? In places where they don't have easy access to Vaccines and the Infant mortality rate is high and Parents regularly have to deal with the death of a Child, but in the west, guarded by the rest of us who are Vaccinated and protected by modern medicine - they stupidly decry the very thing that has given them such a high standard of living.

That's an interesting claim - especially coming from someone who sees the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children as 'acceptable'.

[TheDemonLord]

That's an interesting claim - especially coming from someone who sees the deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children as 'acceptable'.

Indeed, coming from the Pacifist who would stand by and let millions be slaughtered because they are too scared to use force that might Hurt someone Innocent.

If it makes you feel better - I chalk up deaths due to anaphylactic shock from a component in a Vaccine in the same category of 'acceptable' to that supposed 500,000 figure.

One could express is Mathematically:

If doing something results in 500,000 dead (and I dispute that figure)
And doing nothing results in 750,000 dead (A figure based on the activities of the Saddamn prior to the first Gulf War and extrapolated out)

Since 750,000 is greater than 500,000, Then the correct course of action to minimize Human suffering and death is to do something.

And before you claim it's the evil West that inflicted these Terrors on the Poor Iraqi Children, who were so dearly loved by Saddamn and the Country - Just remember that one of the preferred methods of getting Parents to talk was to Gouge their children's eyes out in front of them.

How does that tally with you? Would you stand by and do nothing letting the Torture continue or would you order a guided bomb attack, killing the Torturers and preventing further atrocities?

[Katman]

Indeed, coming from the Pacifist who would stand by and let millions be slaughtered because they are too scared to use force that might Hurt someone Innocent.

If it makes you feel better - I chalk up deaths due to anaphylactic shock from a component in a Vaccine in the same category of 'acceptable' to that supposed 500,000 figure.

One could express is Mathematically:

If doing something results in 500,000 dead (and I dispute that figure)
And doing nothing results in 750,000 dead (A figure based on the activities of the Saddamn prior to the first Gulf War and extrapolated out)

Since 750,000 is greater than 500,000, Then the correct course of action to minimize Human suffering and death is to do something.

And before you claim it's the evil West that inflicted these Terrors on the Poor Iraqi Children, who were so dearly loved by Saddamn and the Country - Just remember that one of the preferred methods of getting Parents to talk was to Gouge their children's eyes out in front of them.

How does that tally with you? Would you stand by and do nothing letting the Torture continue or would you order a guided bomb attack, killing the Torturers and preventing further atrocities?

Dude, ease back on the autism.

[TheDemonLord]

Dude, ease back on the autism.

Translation: "I've got nothing intelligent to reply with so I'll hurrr durrr Autism"

[husaberg]

Translation: "I've got nothing intelligent to reply with so I'll hurrr durrr Autism"

He at least has that in common with Wakefield

[TheDemonLord]

He at least has that in common with Wakefield

[husaberg]

To be fair to Wakefeild though he was smart enough to become a doctor but too greedy and dishonest and generally to much of a despicable human being to stay one.
In comparison the high point of Stevo's academia was a B1 in School cert English and aspires to be a despicable sub human narcissistic troll.

[Katman]

If it makes you feel better - I chalk up deaths due to anaphylactic shock from a component in a Vaccine in the same category of 'acceptable' to that supposed 500,000 figure.

Ok, so dying from a vaccination is 'acceptable' to you.

What about all those who have suffered traumatic developmental issues immediately after vaccination?

I suppose that's fine by you too - just as long as it's someone else's child.

[Drew]

Jesus Christ. This argument is still going.

[Katman]

Jesus Christ. This argument is still going.

Like I've already said Drew, it's been going for 20 years now and shows no sign of abating.

[Drew]

Like I've already said Drew, it's been going for 20 years now and shows no sign of abating.

It will, when the anti crowds children start getting fucked up by polio.

[husaberg]

Ok, so dying from a vaccination is 'acceptable' to you.

What about all those who have suffered traumatic developmental issues immediately after vaccination?

I suppose that's fine by you too - just as long as it's someone else's child.

Do you believe your opinion is more educated and somehow able to give advice given you are not a doctor or have any relevant medical training nor are you a parent or a legal guardian of a child or its seems are able to rationalise basic risks
than either a Doctor or medical professional or a parent does.
Are you really that out of touch with reality that do you really believe your opinion has greater merit or indeed any merit at all than a doctor or parent on vaccination of children under their care?

Like I've already said Drew, it's been going for 20 years now and shows no sign of abating.

Reality suggests otherwise
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/hea...ures-show.html
85% of the entire worlds children are currently vaccinated for Measles prior to one year

In the UK

Coverage of MMR vaccine for children reaching their second birthday has risen from a low of 79.9% in 2003/4, data from the Information Centre show. It stood at 88.2% in 2009/10 and to 89.1% in 2010/11, according to figures reported by PCTs.
But this level of coverage is still lower than that seen in the mid 1990s, when over 90% of children received the MMR vaccine. It is also below the World Health Organization target of 95% coverage.
Andrew Wakefield's research findings, published in The Lancet in 1998, led to a drop in MMR vaccination rates and a rise in measles cases as well as confrontations between GPs and the parents of babies due for their MMR jabs.
The Information Centre figures show that, at the age of five, 91.9% of children had received their first dose of MMR, but only 84.2% had completed the recommended schedule of two doses by this age.

Considering the world wide campaign of misinformation wakefeild started and continues to spread these results prove support for the antivaxers is more a lunatic fringe than widespread support.
Same as the flat earthers the 911 truthers and the the world is run by shape shifting lizard and jews fringe groups.

[TheDemonLord]

Ok, so dying from a vaccination is 'acceptable' to you.

What about all those who have suffered traumatic developmental issues immediately after vaccination?

I suppose that's fine by you too - just as long as it's someone else's child.

Except I take the same risks when it comes to my Children... I take my Child in my Car, I take my Child to a Playground.

For comparison - Risk of Death from a Severe Allergic reaction from a Vaccine: 1 in a Million. Risk of Death from a Car Accident 1 in 45,000 - You drive on the roads yes?

However, there is a very Key statement missing from what you've said:

Compared to what?

A Few children dieing from a severe Allergic reaction (which is something that cannot be known and something that has a procedure in place for dealing with) is acceptable when the alternative is hundreds or Thousands of Children dieing from something that is entirely preventable.

So what would you rather: 4 Children a year (potentially) dying or over 1,000 a year dying (Minimum) - Take your pick.

[Katman]

So what would you rather: 4 Children a year (potentially) dying or over 1,000 a year dying (Minimum) - Take your pick.

Death from measles versus death from the measles vaccine in America.

[TheDemonLord]

Death from measles versus death from the measles vaccine in America.

You don't see the glaring logical error there? Of course not, otherwise you wouldn't have posted it.

Let me put it in a way you will understand:

The fuckwit may aswell have said "There are X number of Deaths a year from Motorcyclists wearing Helmets, but only Y number of Deaths a year from Motorcyclists who don't wear Helmets. X is far bigger than Y, therefore we shouldn't wear Motorcycle Helmets"