Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[husaberg]

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthca...g9TfQLLmKJukD8

While Dr. Zimmerman truly believes that future research might find a way to identify a very small subset of kids with mitochondrial disorders that worsen after they get their vaccines (or infections or other types of inflammation), this doesn’t apply to the great majority of autistic kids or even the great majority of kids with regressive autism.

The MMR vaccine has been temporally associated, if rarely, with regressions — with regression in AMD and other mitochondrial disease when given in the second year. Doubtless some of these regressions are coincidental, since the usual age for giving the MMR falls within the typical window of vulnerability for AMD regression.”

“I do think that — that there was much information — misinformation brought about by Dr. Wakefield and it’s — this has set the field back. I think that — that we — we have worked very hard to try to reassure the public and I agree with doing that because I am very supportive of vaccinations, immunizations in general.”

Andrew Zimmerman

Before you go on the forth or fifth change of subject today
Perhaps you should read what he said
http://bolenreport.com/wp-content/up...Deposition.pdf

Also note what he said about your hero Wakefeild he called both his work misinformation.

[TheDemonLord]

Dude, I'm just pointing out the usual shit standard of your analogies.

You're speculating if they contract measles and speculating if they might die from it.

Dying due to anaphylactic shock after receiving a vaccine doesn't involve any speculation.

I think the problem is you've realised how shit the standard of the Drivel you've posted is, because I used the same, deliberately flawed logic for the analogy as the fuckwit in your video is using.

[TheDemonLord]

Which three separate outbreaks are you referring to?

The ones I've quoted numerous times in this thread - from memory it's one in 1995, one in 1999 and one in 2003

The MMR vaccine I think was stopped in Japan in 1991 - I would bother to dig it back up, but realistically - if the accurate and valid data didn't convince you then, my half-remembered data isn't going to convince you now.

[Katman]

The ones I've quoted numerous times in this thread - from memory it's one in 1995, one in 1999 and one in 2003.

Well google isn't helping me much in confirming your figure of over 1000 dead.

I'm curious to know how you arrived at that figure.

[Katman]

....... because I used the same, deliberately flawed logic for the analogy as the fuckwit in your video is using.

No, you've finally realised just how shit your analogy was.

[husaberg]

Well google isn't helping me much in confirming your figure of over 1000 dead.

I'm curious to know how you arrived at that figure.

The WHO estimates Japans Measles deaths at 88 year
I have seen numbers up to 2000 for the period so TDL's 1000 seems actually an underestimation
But Japan doesnt like to report Deaths year by year
its quite telling considering they effect of delaying immunization has in Japan
1994 -1998. there have been 85 deaths
2000 88 deaths (mainly in children)

[Katman]

1994 -1998. there have been 85 deaths
2000 88 deaths (mainly in children)

That's still a long, long way off 'over 1000'.

[Graystone]

It's somewhat easier to show that a person wouldn't have died from anaphylactic shock due to receiving a vaccine, if they hadn't received the vaccine.

Is it? Presumably that includes showing conclusive evidence they did die from anaphylactic shock due to receiving the vaccine... Have you got any???

[Katman]

Is it? Presumably that includes showing conclusive evidence they did die from anaphylactic shock due to receiving the vaccine... Have you got any???

The vaccine injury reporting system has.

[Graystone]

The vaccine injury reporting system has.

The self reporting one? Or one with actual expert diagnosis?

[Katman]

The self reporting one? Or one with actual expert diagnosis?

Dunno.

Go find out and report back.

[Graystone]

Dunno.

Go find out and report back.

guess it is the shit one then, you fucking muppet

[husaberg]

That's still a long, long way off 'over 1000'.

as i said i have seen over 2000 reported (actually one says 2002 but its unverified.)
also its only 5 years data ands its already 173 deaths and Japan still vaccinated at a rate of over 80% in that period plus had a history of near full vaccination prior to this.
its also a lot more than you claim you posted about how many vaccine killed (most likely worldwide he never mentioned where) over 15 years. Or didn't you figure that one out.

But you attiude towards death from the disease is a little hypocritical given just hours ago you said this.

Ok, so dying from a vaccination is 'acceptable' to you.
What about all those who have suffered traumatic developmental issues immediately after vaccination?
I suppose that's fine by you too - just as long as it's someone else's child.

[Katman]

guess it is the shit one then, you fucking muppet

Well it turns out that by the end of 2011 the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program had paid out compensation for 390 deaths.

Those 127 measles vaccine deaths might make up some of that number.

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/co...ation-programs

[TheDemonLord]

No, you've finally realised just how shit your analogy was.

Or, you've finally realised just how shit your Video was.