Thinking of getting vaccinated?

**Katman** · 15th January 2019, 20:45

Originally Posted by matt.of.the.ingh

I believe you've been accepting a figure of 88 children a year having reactions to vaccinations right?

Have you really been paying that little attention?

Or are you just inherently stupid?

**husaberg** · 15th January 2019, 21:56

Originally Posted by matt.of.the.ingh

All, you can follow the link to the whole paper, which also has references, but the summary there is pretty detailed.

I believe you've been accepting a figure of 88 children a year having reactions to vaccinations right?

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Originally Posted by Katman

Have you really been paying that little attention?

Or are you just inherently stupid?

You posted this video the database he mentions gives the number in the database as having adverse reactions causing death for the last ten years as 88

I had a good look in the actual database last night it appears to be microsoft access but i can't get back in there tonight to post a link tothe actual database rather than just the yearly reports.
he used 15 years but the data base accessibility for a non doctor is only 10 years for the live database you can down load data files for back to about 2001
the thing is the data is not from doctors nor does it require a autopsy or death certificate any person myself included can put any outcome or drug reaction in you like.

Anyone can report to VAERS
Anyone can submit a report to VAERS, including patients, family members, healthcare
providers, vaccine manufacturers and the general public. CDC and FDA encourage
anyone who experiences an adverse event after receiving a vaccine to report to VAERS.

Looking at the figures someone has been adding in deaths and averse reaction in 2016 and 2017. at a rate about 100 times higher than any year previously.
in laymens terms it went from 1 or two to 40's and 50 without the corresponding increase in non fatal adverse reactions, it stinks of someone corrupting the data with false information and reports of deaths.

Another reason is that they also misuse VAERS reports when talking about vaccine deaths.
“In a review of reports of death following vaccination submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) from the early 1990s, the Institute of Medicine concluded that most were coincidental, not causally associated.”
Moro et al on Deaths Reported to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, United States, 1997–2013

Also he used all vaccine reported deaths vs just one disease. ie Measles this is highly misleading.

For example, in 2015:
there were at least 37 cases of perinatal hepatitis B infections
five infants and children less than age 5 years died of rotavirus disease
a 14-month-old died of Hib meningitis
an infant died of pneumococcal meningitis
a 3-year-old with congenital rubella syndrome died
at least two teens died of meningococcal meningitis
a woman in Washington died of measles – the immunosuppressed women was exposed to an outbreak in Clallam County that mostly included intentionally unvaccinated kids
85 kids died of the flu

“Millions of vaccinations are given to children and adults in the United States each year. Serious adverse reactions are rare. However, because of the high volume of use, coincidental adverse events including deaths, that are temporally associated with vaccination, do occur. When death occurs shortly following vaccination, loved ones and others might naturally question whether it was related to vaccination. A large body of evidence supports the safety of vaccines, and multiple studies and scientific reviews have found no association between vaccination and deaths except in rare cases.”

Miller et al on Deaths following vaccination: What does the evidence show?

Quite simply the figure are garbage in garbage out.
Feel free to have a look yourself and make up a heap of excuses.
It reminds me of your pilots against 911 where most were not pilots but flight attendents and ticket sellers
or your engineers agaisnt 911 where anyone could join and sign up.

Originally Posted by Katman

Death from measles versus death from the measles vaccine in America.

What we do have real if complete data is over the last 15 years over 51 people have died of autopsy confirmed peanut allergies in the USA. out of about 103 food allergy deaths.
Given that more food allegy deaths occur than are reported more people died in the same period eating food than getting vaccinated.

**Katman** · 15th January 2019, 22:04

Originally Posted by husaberk

You posted this figure the number in the database as having adverse reactions causing death for the lat ten years is 88
he used 15 years but the data base accesability for a non doctor is only 10 years
the thing is the data is not from doctors nor does it require a autopsy or death certificate any person myself included can put any outcome or drug reaction in you like.
Looking at the figures someone has been adding in deaths and averse reaction in 2016 and 2017. at a rate about 10o times higher than any year previously
Quite simply the figure are garbage in garbage out.
Feel free to have a look yourself and make up a heap of excuses.
It reminds me of your pilots against 911 where most were not pilots but flight attendents and ticket sellers
or your engineers agaisnt 911 where anyone could join and sign up.

What the fuck are you talking about?

**TheDemonLord** · 15th January 2019, 22:31

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Since when are the two mutually exclusive? I'd bet long odds on a study finding a tolerably high degree of correlation between the two.

Not sure if we can, or should extend your somewhat.... unlikely charity to an assumption there's an actual causation re stupidity -> malice though.

Stupid doesn't know/understand what it is doing.
Malice knows damn well and continues anyway.

**oldrider** · 16th January 2019, 08:18

Vaccine Skepticism In Australia Now Punishable By 10 Years In Jail - https://explainlife.com/vaccine-skep...-in-jail-6460/ -

State? - Compulsory mass medication?

**TheDemonLord** · 16th January 2019, 08:35

Originally Posted by oldrider

Vaccine Skepticism In Australia Now Punishable By 10 Years In Jail - https://explainlife.com/vaccine-skep...-in-jail-6460/ -

State? - Compulsory mass medication?

Bit of a misleading title - when it only applies to Medical Professionals...

**Katman** · 16th January 2019, 08:51

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

Bit of a misleading title - when it only applies to Medical Professionals...

So if medical professionals are now facing being harshly penalised if they talk about the risks involved in vaccination, it makes a mockery of the whole 'informed consent' process, don't you think?

**TheDemonLord** · 16th January 2019, 09:31

Originally Posted by Katman

So if medical professionals are now facing being harshly penalised if they talk about the risks involved in vaccination, it makes a mockery of the whole 'informed consent' process, don't you think?

Not at all, the question will be whether they are talking about the actual risks vs the made-up risks put forth by the likes of Mr. Wakefield.

Need I remind you that a child is more likely to die in a Car Crash on the way to the Doctors to get the Vaccine, than die from the Vaccine.

Do you Drive? Would you put your kids (if you had them) in the car?

**Katman** · 16th January 2019, 09:52

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

Need I remind you that a child is more likely to die in a Car Crash on the way to the Doctors to get the Vaccine, than die from the Vaccine.

Do you Drive? Would you put your kids (if you had them) in the car?

Need I remind you that more children die in car crashes than die from contracting measles?

**Katman** · 16th January 2019, 09:55

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

Need I remind you that a child is more likely to die in a Car Crash on the way to the Doctors to get the Vaccine, than die from the Vaccine.

Do you Drive? Would you put your kids (if you had them) in the car?

And btw, go back and read post #4375 and see if you can now figure out why I asked the question.