Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Katman]

I'll take that as a yes.

[Katman]

Dude, you need to lay off the vaccines.

[Katman]

Testing.....1, 2, 3....

[Katman]

Hardly surprising considering your history that you would wimp out when asked a question beyond your School C education and your Taupo online Conspiracy club.

Have you become sufficiently embarrassed about your duplicate posts that you've decided to start deleting them?

I suppose it's at least a start in addressing your mental illness.

[Katman]

Haven't you posted that already?

[husaberg]

Well I suspect it's safe to say that cannabis has played no part in the autism of any child who's mother never used cannabis while pregnant.

Yet what about those that did smoke or be exposed to canabis during pregnancy is it safe to say it scientifically could have lead to the child developing autism.
Increased use of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) during childbearing years

In utero exposure to drugs that interact with neural pathways has been implicated as an important risk factor for ASD. Cannabis/ tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is the most widely used psychotropic drug; its use has increased substantially over the past 20 years; moreover, more recent formulations of the drug display enhanced potency due to changes in preparation methods [17]. Currently, cannabis use during pregnancy is estimated at 10%. Recent studies by Passey et al. [18] and Shabani et al. [19] have shown that neural deficits can result from in utero cannabis exposure. Moreover, Siniscalco et al. [20] have suggested that the endocannabinoid (EC) system may play an important role in the integrated IS/CNS developmental pathway that is dysregulated in autism. Their research has shown that the cannabinoid receptor type 2(CBR2) signal pathway is upregulated in peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) from children with ASD. This finding raises the possibility that the endocannabinoid (EC) system may be associated with ASD. In addition, the authors found reduced levels of bone marrow differentiated macrophages (BMDCs) in children with ASD that may be linked to altered CBR-2 levels.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23934130
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24218023
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23585028

Children exposed in utero to cannabis present permanent neurobehavioral and cognitive impairments. Psychoactive constituents from Cannabis spp., particularly Δ(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), bind to cannabinoid receptors in the fetal brain. However, it is unknown whether THC can trigger a cannabinoid receptor-driven molecular cascade to disrupt neuronal specification. Here, we show that repeated THC exposure disrupts endocannabinoid signaling, particularly the temporal dynamics of CB1 cannabinoid receptor, to rewire the fetal cortical circuitry. By interrogating the THC-sensitive neuronal proteome we identify Superior Cervical Ganglion 10 (SCG10)/stathmin-2, a microtubule-binding protein in axons, as a substrate of altered neuronal connectivity. We find SCG10 mRNA and protein reduced in the hippocampus of midgestational human cannabis-exposed fetuses, defining SCG10 as the first cannabis-driven molecular effector in the developing cerebrum. CB1 cannabinoid receptor activation recruits c-Jun N-terminal kinases to phosphorylate SCG10, promoting its rapid degradation in situ in motile axons and microtubule stabilization. Thus, THC enables ectopic formation of filopodia and alters axon morphology. These data highlight the maintenance of cytoskeletal dynamics as a molecular target for cannabis, whose imbalance can limit the computational power of neuronal circuitries in affected offspring.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24469251

Chronic cannabis exposure can lead to cerebellar dysfunction in humans, but the neurobiological mechanisms involved remain incompletely understood. Here, we found that in mice, subchronic administration of the psychoactive component of cannabis, delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), activated cerebellar microglia and increased the expression of neuroinflammatory markers, including IL-1β. This neuroinflammatory phenotype correlated with deficits in cerebellar conditioned learning and fine motor coordination. The neuroinflammatory phenotype was readily detectable in the cerebellum of mice with global loss of the CB1 cannabinoid receptor (CB1R, Cb1(-/-) mice) and in mice lacking CB1R in the cerebellar parallel fibers, suggesting that CB1R downregulation in the cerebellar molecular layer plays a key role in THC-induced cerebellar deficits. Expression of CB2 cannabinoid receptor (CB2R) and Il1b mRNA was increased under neuroinflammatory conditions in activated CD11b-positive microglial cells. Furthermore, administration of the immunosuppressant minocycline or an inhibitor of IL-1β receptor signaling prevented the deficits in cerebellar function in Cb1(-/-) and THC-withdrawn mice. Our results suggest that cerebellar microglial activation plays a crucial role in the cerebellar deficits induced by repeated cannabis exposure.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3967658/

Because conversely there is no credable basis to say that there is any link between autism and Vaccination. Despite your protestations All the evidence points out the opposite.https://www.healthychildren.org/Engl...-Evidence.aspx

[Katman]

Oh, look at that. You did post it already.

[husaberg]

Oh, look at that. You did post it already.

So where is your answer then
Are now suggesting i hacked your computer and somehow deleted your non existent answers
4688 clearly has no answer nor has any other of your posts
Maybe you should cut down on the recreational herbs.
they appear to be making you both forgetful and paranoid.

[Katman]

So where isyour answer then

My answers are all still there.

I'm not the one feverishly deleting posts.

[oldrider]

Saw this today - about vaccines??? Warning: Not approved by husaberg -

[Berries]

Rosenstein? Not Jewish by any chance?

[Katman]

Rosenstein? Not Jewish by any chance?

He's got that smile.

[Katman]

(Just getting the discussion back into the thread it belongs in).

Id hate anyone else to go through this let alone my son., but as i have said its i understand a pretty rare thing, just a bad series of co incidents.
I had read extesively about chickenpox and other potential deaths vaccination stops i had never even seen Stevens-Johnson.
Hopefully now chickenpox has been added to the national schedule is going to be rarer and rarer ever year.

I assume you're aware that there is evidence that the onset of SJS can also be due to an adverse reaction to vaccines.

[husaberg]

(Just getting the discussion back into the thread it belongs in).



I assume you're aware that there is evidence that the onset of SJS can also be due to an adverse reaction to vaccines.

More than aware unlike you i have a child with it.
unfortunately for you he hasn't contracted it through an adverse reaction to a vaccine.
This is really easy to diagnose as he hasn't been vaccinated for over 2 years. It was also confirmed by two doctors that it was a resultof him having a bad case of chickenpox.
If you were interested in having a discussion you would also answer points put to you.
As it clear you dont and you are a total fool and a narcissistic Muppet.
I will leave you to continue to post unscientific information based on the Wakefeild fraud and your own stupid conspiracy theories.
Theories posted by you in the hope of you getting attention as your life is truly pitiful that you resort to trolling the internet spreading false information.


Why not include the whole discussion where you troll the parent of a sick child.

You ask if English is my second language, but like Katman, you clearly lack comprehension skills.
Doctors quote risk factors for medicals risks to inform parents or patients of risks, its called informed consent.
The risk of death from a Vaccination is 1 in 1 million. Conversely the risk of Death from not receiving a vaccination is 1 in 10000.
Or much far higher in the developing world, by your attitude you are expressing you either lack the deductive reasoning skills to make rational decisions or you suck you at math or have no children.

That aside, as someone who has watched their own child in agony and been told they have developed Stevens-Johnson which has a 1 in 10 chance of dying as a result of the complications of Chicken pox.
What actually makes it far worse, is the knowledge, that if my younger child who gave my older child the chickenpox (despite or best efforts to isolate them), was about to receive their 11 year old vaccination in a few weeks time.
The Vaccination which this time would have resulted in her receiving a Chickenpox vaccination as it was added to the schedule 2 years or so ago, Because my son is 14 he also missed the new schedule but only just.
But feel free to keep going on about vaccines vaccination along with katman, I, myself i will go with real experience and real medical opinions.

ps dont bother to reply, i am not interested.

Did you two both go to the same School for Petulant Children?

Not at all, it's a simple statement of fact:

Becoming a Parent is such a dramatic, life-altering event that you cannot know how and what you will do without living it.

Too be fair TDL, i doubt with his extreme level of narcissism, he would be able to experience as someone without hisd personalty disorder would.
All that would change is he would be even more envious of yet another person getting attention.

Surely if it is so important SOMEONE in the DHB/ system or your doctor who SHOULD HAVE noticed the lack of overlap and contacted parents etc? At least you could have been given a choice.

I know there are people who are unable to have certain vaccinations due to a reactions.

The NZ schedule changed it was the same for everyone else, the risk level for the children was no different than any other child born in NZ born about e 2004 for my son or 2003 for my daughter.
Its just bad luck unfortunately, the number were just not in his favour. But for anyone one especially those without kids to go on about how harmless diseases like chicken pox and Measles etc are maybe they should shut their gobs and leave it to medical experts to advise parents about vaccination. Rather than spread there ill formed third hand conspiracy crap.
The day after my daughter was noticed to have Chickenpox there was a story in the paper about a major outbreak in a town 40Km's away
We have followed the NZ vaccinatio schedules to the letter.
I never had chicken pox until i was 22 my partner 18. neither our or our daughters case was anything like my sons who was more chicken pox than child. He was given all the appropriate medical attention throughout.
Unfortunately due to the incubation period had likely caught the chickenpox even before our daughter showed any symptoms. So our isolated our daughter from him was not enough.
Hes likely going to be admitted again later today as he cant drink anything due to further mouth ulcers and lip legions, again becoming worse.
His legs are randomly going blue he is developing sudden red rashes on his legs that appear and disappear suddenly, Despite the local anesthetic his mouth is being treated with hes in pretty bad pain and cant eat.

Despite not having children I still have first hand experience with both measles and chickenpox.

That's a total bummer Husaberg.

I have been that person who gave someone else a disease which almost killed them. I was quite unaware of what I had done, as my symptoms were minimal.

You just never know.

Don't feel sorry for me, thats not why i shared this, if you should be sorry for anyone here is Katman he reads this and he continues on trolling just the same about vaccines, imagine just how pathetic his life must be.

Please dont bring that member into this.

I just thought it should have been on someone's radar that there were cases that should be covered.

One of my customers regularly has oversight and we pay for it. I feel that in their case there are no excuses.
But they get away with it...... again and again and again.

Id hate anyone else to go through this let alone my son., but as i have said its i understand a pretty rare thing, just a bad series of co incidents.
I had read extesively about chickenpox and other potential deaths vaccination stops i had never even seen Stevens-Johnson.
Hopefully now chickenpox has been added to the national schedule is going to be rarer and rarer ever year.

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[Katman]

unfortunately for you he hasn't contracted it through an adverse reaction to a vaccine.

I didn't suggest he did.

I'm merely pointing out that SJS can also be the result of an adverse reaction to vaccines.

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I'm sure no-one here even remotely believes you.