That is probably one of the most sensible comments I have read in this thread.Originally Posted by Drew
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That is probably one of the most sensible comments I have read in this thread.
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And as per usual with anything new, people wait to see what happens with others before buying it. Once the program is under way and the results can be seen/heard by those people, the rest will soon buy into it no matter what the advertising (on both sides) says.
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
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ThereÂ’s lots of unsubstantiated bullshit spouted about HarleyÂ’s and Jap bikes but people still buy them, and WANT to buy them....
It takes a lot to change someoneÂ’s opinion these days, especially with the god like status bestowed upon medical profession by media that we are all exposed to from a young age and believe as absolute truth.
So why would so many people think opposite, maybe they seen real effects in family and friends over the years...
If vaccines work people who take them should not give a damn about people who donÂ’t as Darwin would take its course and ALL the unvaccinated people would rapidly die off from a swathe of diseases....
Our natural immune systems have protected us for thousands of years with no dress rehearsals needed. And you can bet the Chinese have been eating bats and god knows what else sincevtime began, maybe just maybe there is some nothing else triggering all our illnesses...
Modern western medicine practice is only about 150 years old and inside fromantibiotucs and trauma injury repairs seems quite unsuccessful in other areas....
Yet practically overnight we can have multiple different companies produce new vaccine in record time to the alledgrdly most deadly disease ever facing mankind...?????
We still canÂ’t produce consumer goods like cars and tvs without dangerous product recalls and failures yet we think we can piss about at a nano biological level injecting experimental stuff in peopleÂ’s bodies?????
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They care about people who don't, because some vulnerable people can't be vaccinated and rely on the wider vaccination immunity of the population as a natural innoculation for their weaker immunity.
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What the fuck are you on? No one has said it was the most deadly disease. You just make shit up.
150 years? Closer to 90. Have you ever looked at the average life expectancy over that time frame? It isn't just a result of McDonald's and Yoga classes.
Seriously you can't underestimate the effects of medical advances, along with agriculture.
I've worked with engineers most of my working life. I understand that they are mostly smarter than me. I'd be deluded to think otherwise.
So why do lay people with no medical training think they know better than the top eggheads just because they have read some whackadoodle Internet thread posted by someone equally unqualified and deluded?
"I've done some research " is code for- My mates sisters hairdresser cured cancer with a particularly aggressive perm mixture and tint dye.
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However, Even very smart people can make mistakes, especially if they are rushing or they believe their own hype.
I'm waiting to see if there are any longterm effects from this Vaccine and since I'm in the low-risk category, I'm in no hurry.
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Cars and televisions are built to a price for a start. They're also not worked on with shared knowledge and test data.
Your comparison is piss poor.
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People aren't quite as stupid as you think Dave. Some of them are so smart they can turn their mind to anything they choose instead of becoming so myopic that they have to turn to the freethinkers in order to find solutions to keep them in a job. It's almost as though doing some research actually pays off.
23 Uneducated People Who Changed The Course Of Humanity
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Well it is all shared knowledge really as workers migrate amongst the various manufacturers. Most tv components are all off the shelf gear these days, some screen tech might be manufacturer specific but then they license tech to others as Chinese will only reverse engineer it for next years models anyway..,
If I got some investors together and cobbled together a vaccine start up tommorow you’d worship me like a god and not even look or question my credentials.
Actually I’m surprised fluff news hasn’t featured some nz University Kickstarter project with a miracle cure yet
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No I just quote mainstream media...
We just CLOSED the entire fkn WORLD, smashed the tourism industry to smithereens, were told Billions would die If we didn’t close small businesses.
We didn’t even allow FAMILY to be with their DYING LOVED ones as they passed as it was SO deadly.
Dial back a free years to Ebola outbreak... now that shit is scary. Just remember the PPE those people were wearing when they offloaded that American nurse into ambo from plane. Maybe you are right it’s NOT the deadliest disease, hang on are you agreeing with the conspiracy crowd now cause ain’t that what we been saying going by the maths???! Checkmate
Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket - Eric Hoffer
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Well the vulnerable people can just stay away and live a more sheltered life then. As even if we ALL took the shot a good 30% of us won’t be immune. Even the experts are saying the vax might not stop you be a transmission vector either.
But just look st the measles outbreaks... ever noticed it’s always the parents of the vaccinated kids blaming the unvaxxed for giving their protected kid the measles.
Why is their NEVER a bunch of parents of unvaxxed kids with measles saying they regret not giving them the shot. God imagine the cover photo fluff news could have with a bunch of smug vax Ed parents in background....
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Do the Spanish Flu and Bubonic plague just to mention a couple ring any bells with you ? Because natural immune systems did fuck all
Ebola isn't that scary because it is a lot harder to catch
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Is it the protected kids getting the measles? Or is it more the unvaxxed kids getting it, and their anti-vaxxer parents blaming everyone else for not having built up enough herd immunity to prevent it being passed on
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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They could indeed, but for some reason that greater good isn't considered humane. The homeless can get fucked if they want housing though... anyhoo, there are no guarantees of anything, coz legal protection... and to be honest if we're going to end up with variant upon variant upon variant floating around and someone with variant X can rock up from Country A and kill us coz we ain't covered for that one, then what's the point in having a vaccine that's likely going to be "out of date" or "useless" against other strains? I guess those who travel currently get shots for destinations and the potential bugs within, so I can only assume that regional shots for travelers will be offered so that the covis passport can contain something other than a single test result
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A duh. The tourism market would have been worse fucked with rampant covid as 3 weeks out the overseas tourism would have dried up. AND the local market as well. How are you not comprehending that?No I just quote mainstream media...
We just CLOSED the entire fkn WORLD, smashed the tourism industry to smithereens, were told Billions would die If we didn’t close small businesses.
We didn’t even allow FAMILY to be with their DYING LOVED ones as they passed as it was SO deadly.
Dial back a free years to Ebola outbreak... now that shit is scary. Just remember the PPE those people were wearing when they offloaded that American nurse into ambo from plane. Maybe you are right it’s NOT the deadliest disease, hang on are you agreeing with the conspiracy crowd now cause ain’t that what we been saying going by the maths???! Checkmate
And no I wasn't agreeing with the conspiracy crowd.
Even slightly.
Um. . Bingo?
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