Thinking of getting vaccinated?

**Katman** · 19th January 2025, 17:33

Originally Posted by Kickaha

I cant find anything past 2022

What a surprise.

Not.

**Katman** · 19th January 2025, 17:42

There was a point too where the mainstream media (and medical authorities) suddenly stopped reporting the vaccination status of anyone who 'died suddenly'.

Had they been unvaccinated the media would have been crowing it from the rooftops.

**flyingcrocodile46** · 22nd January 2025, 09:56

Close to 12 years after starting this thread it is great to see awareness of the dangers of playing Russian roulette for little or no benefit finally starting to increase.

What a crying shame that it took the slowly emerging reality of the consequences of the majority moronicity of sheeple (allowing the state to hold the gun to their heads and pull the trigger that is still causing the pointless deaths and disabilities of so many) to illustrate what was always obvious to people with eyes to see and intelligence to discern.

12 fucking years.

Well done to Katman and others who have maintained the patience required to reach and teach the retarded.

**nerrrd** · 22nd January 2025, 10:11

Originally Posted by flyingcrocodile46

Close to 12 years after starting this thread it is great to see awareness of the dangers of playing Russian roulette for little or no benefit finally starting to increase.

To be fair, Russian roulette with a gun with a few thousand chambers in it and only one bullet. Like every other vaccine, medicine, surgical procedure, dose of anaesthetic etc etc.

It's probably a good thing that people are more generally aware that side effects are an actual thing, though.

**onearmedbandit** · 22nd January 2025, 11:20

Originally Posted by flyingcrocodile46

Close to 12 years after starting this thread it is great to see awareness of the dangers of playing Russian roulette for little or no benefit finally starting to increase.

What a crying shame that it took the slowly emerging reality of the consequences of the majority moronicity of sheeple (allowing the state to hold the gun to their heads and pull the trigger that is still causing the pointless deaths and disabilities of so many) to illustrate what was always obvious to people with eyes to see and intelligence to discern.

12 fucking years.

Well done to Katman and others who have maintained the patience required to reach and teach the retarded.

The highlighted and underlined words are exactly why your argument falls on deaf ears to many. You create further division by insulting the very people you are claiming to want to reach.

**R650R** · 22nd January 2025, 12:54

Amongst Trumps statement of 500 billion investment into AI with operation Stargate was an interest comment from CEO. Apparently working on tech where a blood test will reveal micro tumours floating in your bloodstream during early cancer.
An AI platform will analyse and within two days create an MRNA vaccine specific to your body to fight the cancer. Will be interesting to see how this develops.

**mashman** · 22nd January 2025, 13:32

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

The highlighted and underlined words are exactly why your argument falls on deaf ears to many. You create further division by insulting the very people you are claiming to want to reach.

I find that those who can ignore the delivery are usually the ones who 'get reached'. Critical thought seldom starts, has its middle and then ends with the single sentence "Oh, I don't like how he said that.", does it...

**Katman** · 22nd January 2025, 13:34

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

The highlighted and underlined words are exactly why your argument falls on deaf ears to many. You create further division by insulting the very people you are claiming to want to reach.

To be fair, the open contempt that a large portion of the public spewed upon those who chose to remain unvaccinated (and in particular, those who spoke out about the issue) has made it a little difficult to view a great number of people with any real degree of respect.

The only time I've ever seen New Zealand quite so divided as during the Covid years was the Springbok tour of 81.

**onearmedbandit** · 22nd January 2025, 14:34

Originally Posted by mashman

I find that those who can ignore the delivery are usually the ones who 'get reached'. Critical thought seldom starts, has its middle and then ends with the single sentence "Oh, I don't like how he said that.", does it...

Of course, but the point remains, it creates division. There's better ways to get people around to your way of thinking...

**onearmedbandit** · 22nd January 2025, 14:35

Originally Posted by Katman

To be fair, the open contempt that a large portion of the public spewed upon those who chose to remain unvaccinated (and in particular, those who spoke out about the issue) has made it a little difficult to view a great number of people with any real degree of respect.

The only time I've ever seen New Zealand quite so divided as during the Covid years was the Springbok tour of 81.

Agreed, and I felt the same about those who heaped abuse on those who chose to remain unvaccinated (although never stated it on here to be fair - at least I don't think - and if I didn't that's on me and poor form). I was only 6 during the Springbok tour, reading about it doesn't give the same impact as experiencing it.

**mashman** · 22nd January 2025, 15:29

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Of course, but the point remains, it creates division. There's better ways to get people around to your way of thinking...

Like, ahem, doing the research for themselves

I getcha, but people ignoring due diligence because people are incapable of handling emotive communication, often playing the man instead, is a pretty divisive approach to discussion is it not? Far more so than someone swearing and calling someone names considering they're not doing the homework themselves. Not every 'anti-vaxxer' started life out that way. Not every 'anti-vaxxer' is an 'anti-vaxxer' with many simply pointing out the damage that vaccination DOES cause deeming them worthy of the label. Fuckin ironic on so many levels, especially if division is the outcome.

**onearmedbandit** · 22nd January 2025, 15:58

Originally Posted by mashman

Like, ahem, doing the research for themselves

I getcha, but people ignoring due diligence because people are incapable of handling emotive communication, often playing the man instead, is a pretty divisive approach to discussion is it not? Far more so than someone swearing and calling someone names considering they're not doing the homework themselves. Not every 'anti-vaxxer' started life out that way. Not every 'anti-vaxxer' is an 'anti-vaxxer' with many simply pointing out the damage that vaccination DOES cause deeming them worthy of the label. Fuckin ironic on so many levels, especially if division is the outcome.

Dude, all I'm trying to say is calling people retards, sheeple, etc is not the best way to convince them of your position, regardless of what position it is.

**mashman** · 22nd January 2025, 16:22

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Dude, all I'm trying to say is calling people retards, sheeple, etc is not the best way to convince them of your position, regardless of what position it is.

I know... that's why I said "I getcha", but it isn't as cut and dried as that. You are not responsible for my learning, and vice versa, covers it.

**flyingcrocodile46** · 22nd January 2025, 16:55

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Dude, all I'm trying to say is calling people retards, sheeple, etc is not the best way to convince them of your position, regardless of what position it is.

I started out with polite and respectful conversation then the usual suspects chose to set the tone by making it personal and attacking the player. I responded accordingly. You only need read the first page of this thread to see the reality of how tiny little minds get scared shitless and start lashing out at anyone who question the status quo and upsetting their fragile grip on reality.
Kudos to Mashman and Katman for being so much more patient with the disrespectful than I, and breaking down logical thought processes into tiny little (more palatable) bites so that the waves of reader emotion don't wipe out the bridges they attempt to build to their readers.

Personally I don't think they are worth the effort and increasingly appreciate the eugenicists view that the majority of people truly are useless eaters.

**Katman** · 22nd January 2025, 17:15

Originally Posted by flyingcrocodile46

I started out with polite and respectful conversation then the usual suspects chose to set the tone by making it personal and attacking the player. I responded accordingly. You only need read the first page of this thread to see the reality of how tiny little minds get scared shitless and start lashing out at anyone who question the status quo and upsetting their fragile grip on reality.

And as I'm sure you're aware (and I know the mods are aware - cos I've pointed it out to them repeatedly) it's always been that way.