Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Katman]

I am a gas-lighting turd

That's signature material.

[flyingcrocodile46]

That's signature material.

It was so pissed it couldn't even get that right. I never said it was a turd. I guess cognition ain't what it used to be.

[husaberg]

So this guy is a data base administrator. Not a doctor or medical professional? He might just be a stoner with a theory for all we know. And he is facing jail?




edit, he is an IT guy, working within te whatu ora and he published the personal details of around 10,000 people. And was whining about getting caught..I am assuming he has been sentenced by now but dont care enough to find out. Is kinda old news…

I just wasted a few minutes of my life on a stupid pom it who has had two years to prove his theory and it turns out its utter shite
So shit even Alex Jones gave up on him


https://itp.nz/techblog/3319-Griffin...Edward-Snowden


its almost like the KB antivax crew us running interference so Katman doesn't have to answer for his massive display of hypocrisy he showed a few posts above.

You're old enough to remember that measles wasn't treated with the same level of hysteria 50 years ago.


Yet you've since swallowed the big pharma story hook, line and sinker.

If it wasn't treated with hysteria back then, it probably doesn't warrant being treated with hysteria now.

So if we use pre vaccine US figures of 500,000 measles cases 50,000 hospitalisation and 500 deaths is no cause for interventions or alarm on the Katman scale of things not to get hysterical about?


The reason I ask of course is there are some around that get very hysterical about any deaths or ill effect at rates 100 times lower rates that occur with vaccinations?
Maybe you would be able to explain how the somewhat disproportional difference in levels of hysteria occurs in your own interpretations of what you feel is reasonable.
Based of course on your vast experience


ps I have noticed you have previously tried to use the decade when the vaccination was introduced as a base line for figures to imply a lesser death rate occurred.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6878...nited%20States.

Watch Katman run and hide.
The narcissistic ego is so fragile.

[Katman]

I wonder what caused Courtney Duncan's heart condition.

[pritch]

Texas Gave 15,000 More MMR Shots This Year - Now It Has More Measles Cases Than the Entire US Had In 2024

It's possible that is true but you are drawing an entirely wrong conclusion. These figures may be a day or two out of date but nothing will have changed markedly.
The people who are vaccinated are not generally the people getting measles. With just a few exceptions.

[Kickaha]

I wonder what caused Courtney Duncan's heart condition.

You'll never know, but you'll imply and make shit up to suit while knowing it is also a possible side effect of having covid and multiple other things

[Katman]

And yet no-one has yet provided a link to a scientific study published prior to the vaccine roll-out linking myocarditis or pericarditis to the virus. If you can do so, please do.

[husaberg]

And yet no-one has yet provided a link to a scientific study published prior to the vaccine roll-out linking myocarditis or pericarditis to the virus. If you can do so, please do.

So, let's clarify this: you believe a study should have been conducted to investigate a potential side effect of a newly emerged virus for a side effect no one previously knew existed This side effect, which only a few anti-vaxxers claim never existed in significant numbers, piqued your curiosity. On the other hand, you wish to overlook the abundant scientific evidence proving that the virus itself leads to various cardiac and respiratory problems. However, you, with a biased anti-vax mindset, find this insufficient evidence for "Taupo anti-vax Karen."
Our of interest how much pot did you smoke this week Steve?
Pot has been proven to lead to high levels paranoia and long lasting mental issues.
https://www.cdc.gov/cannabis/health-...al-health.html


What is even funnier is you have zero evidence or training in medicine to insinuate the cause of one persons issue, but are more then willing to insinuate you know the cause.




But lets see the difference in factors for unvaccinated in real clinical trials in relations to all heart issues rather then Steve dope fueled imagination


https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news...ee-years-later

The researchers compared the two COVID-19 subgroups to a group of nearly 218,000 people who did not have the condition. They then tracked the patients from the time of their COVID-19 diagnosis until the development of either heart attack, stroke, or death, up to nearly three years. Accounting for patients who had pre-existing heart disease – about 11% in both groups – the researchers found that the risk of heart attack, stroke, and death was twice as high among all the COVID-19 patients

Compare this to the vaccines known rates of increase in rate of myocarditis with vaccine.

There is a very small but increased risk of developing myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) or pericarditis (inflammation of the sac lining the heart) after the Pfizer vaccination. Figures from the United States suggest that this risk is about six cases of myocarditis per million-second doses of the Pfizer vaccine.

Basically in relation to specifically to myocarditis you have a rate of 1 extra person developing it per 100,000 people if they are vaccinated . Yet with actually getting the vaccine and being exposed to COVID 19 you have a The relative risk (RR) for myocarditis more than seven times higher in the infection group than in the vaccination group.
now you don't have to be a mathematical genius to figure out which is a greater risk. Especially when you factor it you are 4 times less likely to actually get COVID after being vaccinated fully.

[Katman]

And still no evidence of a link between myocarditis/pericarditis and the virus dating from before the vaccine rollout.

[husaberg]

And still no evidence of a link between myocarditis/pericarditis and the virus dating from before the vaccine rollout.

To anyone of average intelligence or above, they would likely realise that the time between COVID-19 appearing and the vaccine rollout is not sufficient for longterm studies, as studies of this nature typically take longer. What is relevant to anyone of average intelligence, ie..not paranoid or delusional, is that the people in the study I have shown had not received a COVID vaccine at all. Its completely irrelevant when the study was published or begun or finished.
The only person who believes that the theme of the study had to take place and be concluded in an impossible timeframe is an idiot like you.
The only reason you are grasping at this straw is that you are attempting a strawman argument.
Rna vaccines have been studied for years. Paranoid delusions like yours are not new either, you have been spouting them on KB for years and none of the multiple paranoid delusions you have claimed have proven to be true in that timeframe.

[Katman]

To anyone of average intelligence or above, they would likely realise that the time between COVID-19 appearing and the vaccine rollout is not sufficient for longterm studies, as studies of this nature typically take longer.

No shit Sherlock.

I've been saying that from the start.

You all are the study.

[husaberg]

No shit Sherlock.

I've been saying that from the start.

You all are the study.

Not true, you have been pushing all sorts of fabricated story's.
Sherlock Holmes would look at evidence that is there that proves all your allegations were and still are unfounded.
Instead you seem more interested in coping a feel of Dr Watson.
You also want to bend the truth now to suit your claims. Like for instance missing out the "long term"
If you were right you wouldn't need to do this.

The limited data available that was expedited and approved under urgency has proven to be true as they had studied rna vaccines since the 60's. This was well documented. These studies were continued and were proven to be correct.
You are not uncovering a conspiracy, you are attempting yet again to fabricate one.
What is telling is your continued refusal to admit all the years of data we have now proves the vaccine is exponentially safer than the virus.
These are facts.
Its also a fact you will refuse to admit this is the case, instead as before you will likely go off on another tangent spreading more misinformation.

[Katman]

https://nypost.com/2025/04/04/health...hospital-unit/

I wonder if they are all vaccinated.

[husaberg]

...............

Your vision apparently is slightly less then Stevie wonders.

[jellywrestler]

I wonder what caused Courtney Duncan's heart condition.

why don't you ask her?