Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Katman]

If somthing serious and contagious came along, I would certainly support your right to self isolate and if it came down to it - die for your anti vax stance.

As I in return, would support your right to line up for an experimental vaccine which then sees you wandering around blissfully imagining you're protected.

[Kickaha]

was any one single person held down on the ground and given it? no one was forced.

Rather than forced I would say coerced

[Katman]

Rather than forced I would say coerced

And coercion doesn't constitute informed consent.

[jellywrestler]

Rather than forced I would say coerced

nope, that's not the word used, it was forced he'll be along soon to tell us which post it was used in

[pritch]

OK, looking at this vaccine through that prism - My viewpoint is, apart from parroting hipkins, I do not disagree with anything you said there.

If there were to be another pandemic people who consider it morally abhorrent to be vaccinated against their will should have the option not to be vaccinated. They should, however, be locked away until the pandemic is over to protect themselves and everybody else from their potentially terminal confusion.

[sugilite:Me]

As I in return, would support your right to line up for an experimental vaccine which then sees you wandering around blissfully imagining you're protected.

I will assume you have swapped back to the covid vaccine specifically in order to make your trademark grumpy cat pithy comment. I hope you are not running an 0900 psychic line as you are really not very good at it.

If there were to be another pandemic people who consider it morally abhorrent to be vaccinated against their will should have the option not to be vaccinated. They should, however, be locked away until the pandemic is over to protect themselves and everybody else from their potentially terminal confusion.

Shock collars keeping them at home would be less of a burden on the tax payer.

[Katman]

I will assume you have swapped back to the covid vaccine specifically in order to make your trademark grumpy cat pithy comment.

Pithy but true.

[TheDemonLord]

If there were to be another pandemic people who consider it morally abhorrent to be vaccinated against their will should have the option not to be vaccinated. They should, however, be locked away until the pandemic is over to protect themselves and everybody else from their potentially terminal confusion.

And will you be locking people away who are immunocompromised and cannot take the Vaccine?

Afterall, they pose the exact same risk to others.

[flyingcrocodile46]

And will you be locking people away who are immunocompromised and cannot take the Vaccine?

Afterall, they pose the exact same risk to others.

No one would have to be isolated from vaccine recipients if the vaccine actually worked even half as well as claimed.
It's such a shit vaccine that the only way it is effective is if everyone (including the vaccinated) are isolated from each other

The sheeple have been so terrified by propaganda that long after the peak scamdemic has crested and the MRNA technology has been shown to be 90% ineffective as a "vaccine", the majority of them actually go out of their way to shut down any questioning of the bullshit narrative that they swallowed hook line and sinker. Pussies lobotomized by fear and subconscious shame.

[pritch]

The sheeple have been so terrified by propaganda that long after the peak scamdemic has crested and the MRNA technology has been shown to be 90% ineffective as a "vaccine", the majority of them actually go out of their way to shut down any questioning of the bullshit narrative that they swallowed hook line and sinker. Pussies lobotomized by fear.

Might I suggest avoiding the use of the word "sheeple"? It's normally only used by the idiot fringe.

The mRNA technology is 90% ineffective? That'll be why the Nobel prize for medicine went to people who developed the technology in both 2023 and 2024.

[sugilite:Me]

Pithy but true.

Pertaining to your comment aimed at me, you could not have been more wrong if you tried. I say this as the worlds most pre-eminent expert upon my own self.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Might I suggest avoiding the use of the word "sheeple"? It's normally only used by the idiot fringe.

The mRNA technology is 90% ineffective? That'll be why the Nobel prize for medicine went to people who developed the technology in both 2023 and 2024.

Baaaaaa baaaaaa said the sheep. and the Nobel peace prizes go to who? "Nobel" awards are worth all the paper used to buy them and should more fittingly be known as The Forever Bic Flick awards for their gaslighting value

[Katman]

Pertaining to your comment aimed at me, you could not have been more wrong if you tried. I say this as the worlds most pre-eminent expert upon my own self.

Then I'm more than happy to amend my statement to.....

I would support anyone's right to line up for an experimental vaccine which then sees them wandering around blissfully imagining they're protected.

[nerrrd]

If the science wasn't so unquestionable, people wouldn't need to say "hang on a minute.". What took place during covid was a clusterfuck. From, the very well evidenced lies that it was going to protect you, to, the aftermath of those lies being pretty self-evident in everyday life even before the data was released as those vaccinated got and also died from covid with many more people people than usual complaining of heart problems post vaccination, to, "hide it all, quickly, someones using science to prove that we lied.". I don't necessarily see the individual as the problem.

That's not my experience. Nobody told me that the vaccine was a cure (or a 100% guaranteed way of not getting Covid), every time I took the vaccine I was told about the side effects (and asked to wait just in case anything unexpected happened) and warned to see a doctor if I felt unwell. I listened to a lot of interviews during the pandemic, where a lot of academics were saying they weren't sure how effective the pandemic response would be but that a vaccine was usually the best option for treating a disease like Covid, and that they were tracking the results as they came in (including the fact that the vaccine wasn't preventing transmission long before this was some kind of revelation).

I can understand, however, that the pandemic response seriously fucked up a lot of people's lives, and they're justifiably angry about it. For those who were unfortunate enough to experience serious side effects from the vaccine, they're entitled. That's a high price to pay for the sake of the rest of us and brings up an interesting ethical dilemma. Maybe it's time the medical profession re-examined their assumptions on that point, given it's impossible to predict exactly how any treatment of any kind with affect every single individual.

[sugilite:Me]

Then I'm more than happy to amend my statement to.....

I would support anyone's right to line up for an experimental vaccine which then sees them wandering around blissfully imagining they're protected.

Yep, much better, and I have no doubt that there are those out there that do subscribe to that fantasy.