Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[bogan]

Willful ignorance isn't in my make-up.

self censored that one for being willfully self-ignorant eh katty

[Woodman]

Where did Katmans quote go?

[scumdog]

Ah hell it's just the desease de jour.

Like bird-flu was
and mad cow disease was

Get over it, another 'new, debilitating easily spread disease' will be in a town near you soon enough.'

[TheDemonLord]

Says who? You are ignoring the research carried out for that last 4 years by the doctor cited in the video. No! I ain't posting the original quoted article. Find it independently like I did or carry on with your poorly informed (MSM) opinion.

Let me break this down for you:

You are claiming that there is Research that indicates there was a problem for 4 years.
I provide you with a Link to a Medical Journal that shows the reported cases over the last 5 years, which shows that the rates were fairly constant until 2015.
You then ignore the Medical Journal, yet "No! I ain't posting the original quoted article."

That which is submitted without Evidence....

And besides - what is MSM about a Medical Journal, or are you going the Full Katman route - where everything is a Conspiracy?

It's not retarded at all. But you appear to be, when you deny the relevance in the face of simple logic such as the fact that it highlights the absurdity of WHO and MSM hyping an epidemic (simply because a third world country is catching up with the western worlds infection rates?? wtf?).

Half of your premise is based on a supposed Study that you can't cite, so I'm going to ignore it until you post up the original Article. I want to focus on the last comment - because it shows how truly small your mind is:

simply because a third world country is catching up with the western worlds infection rates??

Do you think, that if we have a group that has previously not had this problem and suddenly developed that problem, that perhaps we could identify a cause? And if we can identify this cause in our group, it might help address the Western infection rates (or at least, help us rule out possible causes in the western world)?

A third world country where such investigations weren't carried out until a cover story was needed to deflect attention away from the speculation around recent pesticide use by Monsanto after some nosy doctor disclosed the fact that she had collected evidence that suggested a recent spike in the problem and that it coincided with the massive jump in pesticide use. IOW The reason for the spike is that there has been a similar spike in the amount of testing undertaken.

Blah Blah Blah

CITATION NEEDED

[Katman]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/...birth-defects/

[flyingcrocodile46]

Let me break this down for you:

You are claiming that there is Research that indicates there was a problem for 4 years.
I provide you with a Link to a Medical Journal that shows the reported cases over the last 5 years, which shows that the rates were fairly constant until 2015.
You then ignore the Medical Journal, yet "No! I ain't posting the original quoted article."

That which is submitted without Evidence....

And besides - what is MSM about a Medical Journal, or are you going the Full Katman route - where everything is a Conspiracy?



Half of your premise is based on a supposed Study that you can't cite, so I'm going to ignore it until you post up the original Article. I want to focus on the last comment - because it shows how truly small your mind is:



Do you think, that if we have a group that has previously not had this problem and suddenly developed that problem, that perhaps we could identify a cause? And if we can identify this cause in our group, it might help address the Western infection rates (or at least, help us rule out possible causes in the western world)?



Blah Blah Blah

CITATION NEEDED

You can toss glitter into the air and pedal your fan as hard as you want, but all the glitter in the world ain't going to change the fact that you're just another mindless turd.

[bogan]

You can toss glitter into the air and pedal your fan as hard as you want, but all the glitter in the world ain't going to change the fact that you're just another mindless turd.

Needs more pro-nouns dude...

[flyingcrocodile46]

http://www.collective-evolution.com/...birth-defects/

You know he won't read it and that even if he did, he would proclaim it to be a lie because in hasn't been sanctioned through the MSM as a bonafide believable lie.

[Katman]

You know he won't read it and that even if he did, he would proclaim it to be a lie because in hasn't been sanctioned through the MSM as a bonafide believable lie.

I blame his autism.

[TheDemonLord]

You can toss glitter into the air and pedal your fan as hard as you want, but all the glitter in the world ain't going to change the fact that you're just another mindless turd.

Now Kiddies - this is a classic Ad Hominem attack. As you can see - the Poster has made a number of unsubstantiated claims - when asked for a source, No source is provided. Ad Hominems are almost entirely used when the person making the unsubstantiated claims know that they are peddling a load of retarded Horse shit and so try and attack the person calling them out on their BS to divert attention away from the fact that they are full of shit.

[TheDemonLord]

You know he won't read it and that even if he did, he would proclaim it to be a lie because in hasn't been sanctioned through the MSM as a bonafide believable lie.

I did read it - it was interesting, however both the original article posted by Katman and the Source article that it plagiarizes both do a very subtle but convincing hoodwink (which is why Gullible Conspiracy twits like you and Katman gobble it up so easily):

It talks about the effects of Pesticides, Vitamin deficiency etc. on a Fetus - and claim these as alternatives for the outbreak. Now, I'm not going to back-check whether these are factually correct because it doesn't actually address the cause of concern, which is the sudden increase in cases, even when we take into account incorrect diagnosis, False positive etc. as a result of the panic, there still had to be an increase to cause the panic in the first place. Neither article addresses this. It is a fair and reasonable assumption that the Pesticide use for a given area and the general health of a given population would remain fairly static (unless there was something to change this), We can make this assumption because neither article mentions a sudden increase in Pesticide use around the time of the increase in cases nor a change in the Pesticides used.

The source article does make a casual nod to the upsurge in numbers - suggesting the TDAP vaccination program could be to blame, but when I looked at the source used to claim that this was not safe for Pregnant Women, it linked back to an article on its own website (gotta love a circular reference)

This is the Smoke and Mirrors trick - Neither article addresses the original cause for concern (which is the upsurge in reported cases)

And that doesn't even address the concerns from the source website being a lovely blend of 'The Evil Pharma companies tell you that you are sick - They are Lieing! Buy my natural products to make you better' - Surely you can see the massive hypocrisy here?

[TheDemonLord]

I blame his autism.

Even if I were full Autistic - I'd still be able to point out the glaring holes in your Conspiracy Cult without breaking an intellectual sweat.

But it is nice to know that you have a Doctorate in Mental conditions and can accurately diagnose through the Internet, just like you can diagnose how people died by looking at 70 year old Photographs, or those degrees in Metallurgy, Physics, Chemistry and Structural Engineering that you hold......

[Katman]

.....there still had to be an increase to cause the panic in the first place.

Not necessarily.

It could be something as simple as a hidden agenda.

[bogan]

Not necessarily.

It could be something as simple as a hidden agenda.

You should push your own limits, try to read and respond to the whole sentence so you don't look like such a fool by cutting out the very bit that shows you to be wrong. Ie, the sudden increase in cases...

Sound out the words if you need to, phone a friend to get help... you can get there though, just put on your big boy pants and go for it!

Now you may think that's an ad-hominem, but you'd be wrong (still).

[TheDemonLord]

Not necessarily.

It could be something as simple as a hidden agenda.

Yes, but with you EVERYTHING is the result of a Hidden Agenda, and more importantly - What Proof do you have of this other than other Conspiracy and 'Hidden Agendas'