Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[mashman]

That's why saline was used as the placebo, as it cannot produce any reactions in the human body. It's the standard first call for replacing blood loss, for example as there are no issues with typing.

So for an inert simple salt solution to produce the same results as Gardasil, suggests that Gardasil is not the problem many think it is.

In bold, is my main concern. Hindsight, for my own children, would be that I would not have used it anyway as they didn't fit the criteria for needing it.

Odd, as I would have thought that saline wouldn't have produced a result at all. Isn't that the point of a placebo?

Concern shared.

[Edbear]

Odd, as I would have thought that saline wouldn't have produced a result at all. Isn't that the point of a placebo?

Concern shared.

Exactly, a placebo tends to give a check on perceived symptoms of a psychosomatic nature. Many people claim to have a result when they were only given the placebo.

[mashman]

Exactly, a placebo tends to give a check on perceived symptoms of a psychosomatic nature. Many people claim to have a result when they were only given the placebo.

I'm not denying psychosomatic influence, but it sounds like you're saying that how the person felt was enough to confirm the result? Shirley you're not suggesting that that's how clinical trials obtain their results?

[Edbear]

I'm not denying psychosomatic influence, but it sounds like you're saying that how the person felt was enough to confirm the result? Shirley you're not suggesting that that's how clinical trials obtain their results?

That's the way the report is worded, though, and why a placebo was given as a check.. Have another read through.

Personally I prefer to have actual clinical results from a test.

[BuzzardNZ]

Exactly, a placebo tends to give a check on perceived symptoms of a psychosomatic nature. Many people claim to have a result when they were only given the placebo.

Could it work if we gave you placebo tramadol?

[mashman]

That's the way the report is worded, though, and why a placebo was given as a check.. Have another read through.

Personally I prefer to have actual clinical results from a test.

That was Mercks marketing bumf. Somehow I doubt that the word of the recipients would be good enough to receive approval for the shelves.

[yokel]

Trust us, we're "experts" we make a lot of money from you.

[Banditbandit]

Trust us, we're "experts" we make a lot of money from you.

So ... you were vaccinated as a child? (good chance - because children don't know enough or are too small to stop it ) ..

[Swoop]

So ... you were vaccinated as a child?

It appears so. Vaccinated from catching intelligence.

[Edbear]

"There is simply no scientific evidence that links vaccines to autism. Many, many, many studies have confirmed this. The most recent Cochrane systematic review of research on the MMR vaccine included six self-controlled case series studies, two ecological studies, one case crossover trial, five time-series trials, 17 case-control studies, 27 cohort studies and five randomised controlled trials.
"More than 15 million children took part in this research. No one could find evidence that vaccines are associated with autism," wrote Aaron E Carroll, a professor of Paediatrics, in a New York Times blog.

[Oscar]

"There is simply no scientific evidence that links vaccines to autism. Many, many, many studies have confirmed this. The most recent Cochrane systematic review of research on the MMR vaccine included six self-controlled case series studies, two ecological studies, one case crossover trial, five time-series trials, 17 case-control studies, 27 cohort studies and five randomised controlled trials.
"More than 15 million children took part in this research. No one could find evidence that vaccines are associated with autism," wrote Aaron E Carroll, a professor of Paediatrics, in a New York Times blog.

Dead horse.
Flogging.


Darwin will take care of these fuckwits given time.

[mashman]

"There is simply no scientific evidence that links vaccines to autism. Many, many, many studies have confirmed this. The most recent Cochrane systematic review of research on the MMR vaccine included six self-controlled case series studies, two ecological studies, one case crossover trial, five time-series trials, 17 case-control studies, 27 cohort studies and five randomised controlled trials.
"More than 15 million children took part in this research. No one could find evidence that vaccines are associated with autism," wrote Aaron E Carroll, a professor of Paediatrics, in a New York Times blog.

Dead horse.
Flogging.

Darwin will take care of these fuckwits given time.

I'd pay handsomely to watch you two state that in front of De Niro or in front of any parent that watched their kid transform almost overnight into something that they weren't before inoculation.

[Oscar]

I'd pay handsomely to watch you two state that in front of De Niro or in front of any parent that watched their kid transform almost overnight into something that they weren't before inoculation.

"There is simply no scientific evidence that links vaccines to autism."

Set it up - I'll say that in front of De Niro or anyone else that cares to listen.

[Ocean1]

or anyone else that cares to listen.

Best you fuck off out of here, then.

[Edbear]

Dead horse.
Flogging.
Darwin will take care of these fuckwits given time.

From what I have seen, anti-vaxxers tend to have the same mindset as conspiracy theorists, and nothing like scientific evidence will ever convice them. They prefer to believe everything posted on the anti-vaccination sites.

Anecdotal reports by people about adverse reactions are accepted without question, whereas scientific studies of any magnitude are dismissed.

Like I said, I will continue to believe verifiable science over anti-vaxxers as with conspiracy theorists.

Over and out.