Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Katman]

My understanding of how immunisation works is that a weakened or dead pathogen is introduced into your body and your body naturally develops an immune response.
Isn't that natural?

Except that the defences on the outside of the body have been rendered redundant.

[Drew]

I think it can be taken as read that 'acquired from your mother in the womb' counts as natural.

The body has a number of means to protect it from the invasion of a pathogen.

I just wonder whether bypassing those means, by injecting the pathogen directly into the system, might not be rendering some of those other means less effective.

Except that the defences on the outside of the body have been rendered redundant.

What external defenses? Skin and hair are the sum total of our other defenses from pathogens.

Everything else is antibodies inherited or developed.

[idb]

Except that the defences on the outside of the body have been rendered redundant.

I don't understand.

[Katman]

What external defenses? Skin and hair are the sum total of our other defenses from pathogens.

Everything else is antibodies inherited or developed.

There's the ability of nasal passage secretions to trap pathogens 'outside' the body, for a start.

[Drew]

There's the ability of nasal passage secretions to trap pathogens 'outside' the body, for a start.

You're of the opinion that immunized people don't produce as much snot?

[TheDemonLord]

There's the ability of nasal passage secretions to trap pathogens 'outside' the body, for a start.

Because that works so well against Airborne Pathogens like the Common Cold and Flu.

I mean, No one EVER catches those from breathing in......

[Katman]

You're of the opinion that immunized people don't produce as much snot?

Maybe it's down to the quality of the snot.

[Katman]

I'm becoming more and more of the opinion that if anyone ever attempted to force me to vaccinate a child (thankfully not going to be an issue) they'd be told to go fuck themselves.

And rest assured, if it should ever transpire that one day they start saying "whoops, perhaps we should have stuck to the three separate shots", I'll be back to ridicule you all mercilessly.

[Banditbandit]

Maybe it's down to the quality of the snot.

Maybe there's an injection for that ???

[Katman]

Maybe there's an injection for that ???

If there is, you should all form an orderly queue behind TheDemonLord.

[TheDemonLord]

I'm becoming more and more of the opinion that if anyone ever attempted to force me to vaccinate a child (thankfully not going to be an issue) they'd be told to go fuck themselves.

And hypothetically - say your child caught something and then infected a child who couldn't (due to a Medical reason) get Vaccinated, and that Child died.

What would you tell their Parents?

Also Hypothetically - what would you tell YOUR child as they literally cough themselves to death (where the force of the Coughing is so strong that it rips the lining of the lungs, filling them with blood, slowly drowning your child in their own blood).

And rest assured, if it should ever transpire that one day they start saying "whoops, perhaps we should have stuck to the three separate shots", I'll be back to ridicule you all mercilessly.

And rest assured, if it should ever transpire that one day they start saying "The MMR-Autism link was completely fraudulent", I'll be back to ridicule you all mercilessly.

Oh Wait.....

[idb]

If there is, you should all form an orderly queue behind TheDemonLord.

You haven't explained how your body's 'external defences' are reduced by vaccination.

[Bass]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11652078


Some interesting comments on both sides of the question - quite enlightening

[mashman]

And rest assured, if it should ever transpire that one day they start saying "The MMR-Autism link was completely fraudulent", I'll be back to ridicule you all mercilessly.

Oh Wait.....

How's the view up your own arse?

“That’s the deal . . ., that’s what I keep seeing again and again and again . . . where these senior people [at CDC] just do completely unethical, vile things and no one holds them accountable.”

[Katman]

How's the view up your own arse?