So is the covid vaccine better for two strokes or four?Originally Posted by Moise
Rasta Ratskins
So is the covid vaccine better for two strokes or four?
Only a Rat can win a Rat Race!
In the riders seat
It's a waste of time for either, it neither stops transmission or prevents you from getting it, as for lessening the symptoms there's a good Tui ad in there somewhere, unless you were elderly with other comorbidities the risk was very low of it ending in death, not to say there wouldn't be other side effects but people are getting those even after being vaccinated and having covid
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
Low personal B.M.E.P.
Careful, you're starting to resemble that description.
And it did kill a lot of people - and still is in some places.
Hardcore Biker
And it can be a nasty illness even if you're healthy and not old. I know a couple of women in their 40s who have been very ill, one unvaccinated and the other fully vaxed. So there's a bit of luck in how it's going to affect you.
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No8 Wire Extraordinaire
Yeah we should dug up some of those guys and tell them it didn't really happen.
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
In the riders seat
No one is saying it didn't happen, certain groups were more far more susceptible to a bad outcome than others though.
Out of 5007 deaths 4132 were 70+ and 3218 of them had both shots + a booster, 419 not fully vaccinated so either none or only 1 shot and the rest had 2 shots
Now some of those may not have been killed by covid and will be reclassified but they had tested positive in the previous 28 days before dying, out of those where covid was noted as the underlying cause of death,1926 out of 2164 dead were over 70
Those numbers were current as of 05/11/23
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
Anorak
And of those that were vaccinated and didnt die? or better still and far more relevant the real actual increased rate of death for the unvaccinated?
vaccination is one of the most effective steps people can take to reduce their risk of death from COVID-19. The analysis shows a 62% reduction in the risk of death from COVID-19 among people who had two or more doses compared to those who had received one dose or no doses.Or the reduced surge having high rates of vaccination prevent?CDC director Rochelle Walensky has said that 99.5 percent of all deaths from COVID-19 are in the unvaccinated.
I am afraid your supposition actually a reverse of logic
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7206a3.htm
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...inated-people/
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccinationhttps://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95565-8
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
Forum whore
NZ whistle blower provided 25% of the data collected on NZs vaccinated and was concerned at the numerous clinic stats that conclusively prove 25% (one at 30%) of attendees to vaccine clinics have died less than 12 months after vaccination.
I advised to carefully weigh the risks against the benefits. We now all know the vaccines are worthless. 1. they don't prevent anyone from catching covid. 2. They don't prevent spreading covid (and nor do masks). 3. They do not reduce hospitalisation rates (in fact the opposite is true the more boosters you take).
Yet 95% of the country were so propagandised by the fear campaign they turned into pussies and decided it was a good idea to play Russian Roulette (despite there never been any evidence that it worked effectively).
Now industry 'gold standard' data (analysed by MIT professors) has been provided that show at least 20% of recipients of some vaccine batches are dying in the thousands (all age groups) and many healthy people just suddenly dropping dead without any warning... for pretty much zero win benefit.
I did warn you. Now who's the nutter eh!
https://nzdsos.com/2023/12/03/whistl...dsos-response/
https://nzdsos.com/2023/11/29/steve-kirsch-moh-offer/
https://nzdsos.com/2023/12/07/whistl...-data-release/
Way to go everyone
Political correctness: a doctrine which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd from the clean end.
Anorak
Care to tell us what the clinics were, ie was it an oncology dementia clinic or pallitive care clinics perhaps?
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
Forum whore
Nope. They are specialist Vaccine stations or vaccine only clinics. Not palliative care or oncology etc. As I said, this is all age groups (not just the old or ill people) as your question appears to suggest. If you took the time to read the articles you wouldn't need to ask your misleading question.
Not answering any more of your pointless questions. I gave you the links, so you could do your own legwork.
Note that the govt have arrested him and they have confirmed that zero patient personal info was included (no breach of privacy). The govt spokespeople have not once suggested that the information is in any way inaccurate (but continue to recommend getting the 100% totally ineffective (except at killing people) vaccine.
Political correctness: a doctrine which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd from the clean end.
No8 Wire Extraordinaire
If your claims were true, we would be tripping over dead bodies. The population would have plummeted.
Did you not even give it the smell test?
So yes. You are the nutter.
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
Kruger-Dunning Parts n Service
YouÂ’d think this dude would have got 100% of the data not 25% because otherwise itÂ’s like election night without the special votes.
Also itÂ’s died since that event not necessarily because of it. It would be the same probably if KFC was able to keep same records.
YouÂ’ve got to remember a batch means one of many prepared on any given day in any town. And early on a lot of vulnerable people or elderly etc would have been first to get it.
Some of the first groups would have been truckers/essential workers and nurses/doctors etc.
It wouldnÂ’t go unnoticed if people in these groups were dying in unnatural numbers.
I’m all for a good conspiracy but there’s nowhere near anough clear data to show a hint of anything. Even the small percentage of “excess” deaths internationally is prob more likely from the health effects of lockdown inactivity and poor diet during that time.
For example if someone over the age of 60falls and breaks their hip they have a 50% chance of dying during next 12 months due to health complications caused by lack of mobility.
I do think the govt and media have created a problem here with their over reaction and censorship but maybe that was the objective??? The solution is a digital ID and being permanently logged in to your devices so authorities can keep us safe from “ misinformation”
Govt gives you nothing because it creates nothing - Javier Milei
Anorak
yet from your link.
You are an egg.His data demonstrated very high mortality after injection, over 30% of recipients dead within a year of being ‘vaccinated’ by some mobile centres (presumably vaccinating into rest homes, which will have a greater annual mortality than the general population’s 0.75%).
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
Rasta Ratskins
FFS, you must be fucking retarded. Have an adult/carer help you out with this lot.NZ whistle blower provided 25% of the data collected on NZs vaccinated and was concerned at the numerous clinic stats that conclusively prove 25% (one at 30%) of attendees to vaccine clinics have died less than 12 months after vaccination.
I advised to carefully weigh the risks against the benefits. We now all know the vaccines are worthless. 1. they don't prevent anyone from catching covid. 2. They don't prevent spreading covid (and nor do masks). 3. They do not reduce hospitalisation rates (in fact the opposite is true the more boosters you take).
Yet 95% of the country were so propagandised by the fear campaign they turned into pussies and decided it was a good idea to play Russian Roulette (despite there never been any evidence that it worked effectively).
Now industry 'gold standard' data (analysed by MIT professors) has been provided that show at least 20% of recipients of some vaccine batches are dying in the thousands (all age groups) and many healthy people just suddenly dropping dead without any warning... for pretty much zero win benefit.
I did warn you. Now who's the nutter eh!
https://nzdsos.com/2023/12/03/whistl...dsos-response/
https://nzdsos.com/2023/11/29/steve-kirsch-moh-offer/
https://nzdsos.com/2023/12/07/whistl...-data-release/
Way to go everyone
The whistle blower is being prosecuted for illegally accessing this vaccine information and is using his lack of education to spread dangerous misinformation. Which you have swallowed hook line and sinker. Way to go yourself. Take yourself to the edge of the world and throw yourself over
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Forum whore
One of the claims I have seen is 1 in 1,000 vaccinations resulted in death. That is about 13,000 deaths.
You'd think someone might have noticed.
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