Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Akzle]

About 3% of vaccinated people can still get it. Far less serious symptoms.
97% is enough to provide herd immunity and to eventually make it extinct. 85% is probably enough. But even in the western world up to 30% don't bother, because as James succinctly put it: fuckwits.

of course.
So you piss and moan about 5-12%
why not go and find the five % who dont because lazy, rather than morally/religiously/ignorantly or otherwise opposed.

Or. Just fuck up about it and die like a vaccinated bitch.

Lol @humans making something extinct.*
It'll never catch on...


Edit * - that isnt delicious

[Virago]

...being vaccinated for measles or the flu is just unnecessary...

Measles currently kills globally an average of 0.5% of victims (roughly 100,000 deaths from 20,000,000 victims). The mortality rate has fallen massively since 1980, as immunisation has spread progressively through the globe, more recently into third world countries (where mortality is often as high as 10%). Vaccination unnecessary you say?

Please feel free to point out any documented and certified measles-vaccine related deaths.

There is currently a small outbreak of measles in Christchurch - the direct result of non-vaccination. Those who chose not to vaccinate their kids will now be running scared. Because it can kill.

And 'flu? Don't confuse your "kiwi flu" (or the common cold - "I can't come in today boss, I've got the 'flu") with the real thing. The real 'flu is nasty - really nasty.

Influenza spreads around the world in a yearly outbreak, resulting in about three to five million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths. Vaccination unnecessary you say?

[Akzle]

Influenza spreads around the world in a yearly outbreak, resulting in about three to five million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths.

...despite vaccination

[Akzle]

There is currently a small outbreak of measles in Christchurch - the direct result of non-vaccination.

except it were a vaccinated kid that was the 'index case'

... And the three unvaccinated kids who rolled in the same shit didnt get it.

[idb]

except it were a vaccinated kid that was the 'index case'

... And the three unvaccinated kids who rolled in the same shit didnt get it.

Correction...the kid had not completed the course of vaccinations.

The child had had a first dose of the measles vaccine, but had yet to have a second dose - due when a child is four years old.


The severity of the symptoms were reduced because the child had received one dose of the vaccine, Williams said.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/heal...urch-preschool

[yokel]

Correction...the kid had not completed the course of vaccinations.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/heal...urch-preschool

So when you get vaccinated you're not vaccinated?
What a fucking joke.
Well at least this kid wont need anymore shots, just got some for free!

Also people that have just been vaccinated can also spread the dieses.

how many shots does a kid have to get?

[Banditbandit]

how many shots does a kid have to get?

You, kid, only need one. A .308 in the base of the skull ...

(It's 10.30 on a weekday morning. How come you are not in class? I believe you had English period two didn't you Michael? Does your mother know where you are?)

[yokel]

You, kid, only need one. A .308 in the base of the skull ...

(It's 10.30 on a weekday morning. How come you are not in class? I believe you had English period two didn't you Michael? Does your mother know where you are?)

A threat of physical violence shows the true depth of your intelligence.

Nice one upmanship, but you lose.

[Banditbandit]

A threat of physical violence shows the true depth of your intelligence.

A threat? Which ones is the threat? The factual statement that a .308 bullet to the base of your skull will kill you or the possibly implied threat to tell your mother where you really are?

[Ocean1]

of course.
So you piss and moan about 5-12%
why not go and find the five % who dont because lazy, rather than morally/religiously/ignorantly or otherwise opposed.

Or. Just fuck up about it and die like a vaccinated bitch.

Lol @humans making something extinct.*
It'll never catch on...


Edit * - that isnt delicious

I'm not moaning about 5%. I'm suggesting that the 30% of parents in the western world that don't vaccinate their kids because they're lazy, morally or religiously disinclined or plain ignorant fuck off and live somewhere else. Preferably in one place. Which leaves the rest of us at far less risk.

That way when we do make each disease extinct from within civilised societies (y'know, like we have smallpox) then we can nuke the retards safely and finish the job properly.

[Banditbandit]

I'm not moaning about 5%. I'm suggesting that the 30% of parents in the western world that don't vaccinate their kids because they're lazy, morally or religiously disinclined or plain ignorant fuck off and live somewhere else. Preferably in one place. Which leaves the rest of us at far less risk.

That way when we do make each disease extinct from within civilised societies (y'know, like we have smallpox) then we can nuke the retards safely and finish the job properly.

Nice idea ... but ..

I'd rather suggest that if parents do not vaccinate their children then they should be charged full cost for any medical assistance required if the child gets a disease that vaccination would have prevented.

If they won't take the publicly-funded vaccination/prevention offerings then they should not be given cheap/free cure options ...

[Ocean1]

Nice idea ... but ..

I'd rather suggest that if parents do not vaccinate their children then they should be charged full cost for any medical assistance required if the child gets a disease that vaccination would have prevented.

If they won't take the publicly-funded vaccination/prevention offerings then they should not be given cheap/free cure options ...

What about the kids their kids gave the disease to, they get to make that good too?

What about the billions of future kids that get the disease because the current fuckwits failed to prevent it, they going to pay their bills?

That must come to a tidy sum, let's see that cash up front before you decide, eh?

Oh. And 'cause you reckon it's safer not to immunise here's a shot of perfectly healthy polio, measles, Spanish flue#m243.... AND a free one-way ticket to Lepersville.

[mashman]

Nice idea ... but ..

I'd rather suggest that if parents do not vaccinate their children then they should be charged full cost for any medical assistance required if the child gets a disease that vaccination would have prevented.

If they won't take the publicly-funded vaccination/prevention offerings then they should not be given cheap/free cure options ...

And of course you'll return all of their tax $ and ACC contributions etc...?

[Banditbandit]

What about the kids their kids gave the disease to, they get to make that good too?

What about the billions of future kids that get the disease because the current fuckwits failed to prevent it, they going to pay their bills?

That must come to a tidy sum, let's see that cash up front before you decide, eh?

Oh. And 'cause you reckon it's safer not to immunise here's a shot of perfectly healthy polio, measles, Spanish flue#m243.... AND a free one-way ticket to Lepersville.

Hang about .. I'm very very pro-vaccination ... if they don't vaccinate their kids make the fuckers pay the subsequent medical bills ...

And of course you'll return all of their tax $ and ACC contributions etc...?

No. There's plenty of other services those taxes pay for ... including health services for other things ... and catching a disease is not an accident so ACC does not apply ..

[mashman]

No. There's plenty of other services those taxes pay for ... including health services for other things ... and catching a disease is not an accident so ACC does not apply ..

So give back the healthcare element of taxation... that way you can have user pays... which is what you seem to want.