Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[TheDemonLord]

... the gifted that just keeps on giving.

I find your lack of logical rebuttal amusing (and very telling)

[Akzle]

The study was quoted on a telle show I watch called QI. So I got on the Google and read a bit.

you'll believe anything the msm tell you, wontya

[idb]

So a sudden onset of seizures is just the parents imagination?

I wonder how many people have vaccinations worldwide?
Probably lots and lots.
I also wonder what are the statistical chances of someone, somewhere among those lots and lots of people developing a completely unrelated condition soon after being vaccinated.

[mashman]

I find your lack of logical rebuttal amusing (and very telling)

It was a perfectly logical response... you're simply too stupid.

[TheDemonLord]

It was a perfectly logical response... you're simply too stupid.

Logical is a bit of a stretch - I'd agree with predictable. I do love however that the person who brays like an Ass is the one calling people Stupid...

[mashman]

Logical is a bit of a stretch - I'd agree with predictable. I do love however that the person who brays like an Ass is the one calling people Stupid...

Not from where I'm sitting. Braying like an Ass is required when all the audience is capable of handling is shit. You can't shift position = you don't got no logic nor capacity for logic son... hence you get shit. You're welcome.

[mashman]

Scientists fear MMR link to autism. I hope you've got a massive humble pie to hand out Katman. You might well need it by the sounds of things

[idb]

Scientists fear MMR link to autism. I hope you've got a massive humble pie to hand out Katman. You might well need it by the sounds of things

By SALLY BECK, Mail on Sunday

28/05/2006

[TheDemonLord]

Not from where I'm sitting. Braying like an Ass is required when all the audience is capable of handling is shit. You can't shift position = you don't got no logic nor capacity for logic son... hence you get shit. You're welcome.

I'll shift any position when there is sufficient evidence for it. The problem you have here is that half of your beliefs are just that Beliefs without evidence. I prefer to look up the evidence for the claims and let the weight of the evidence determine what I hold to be true.

The follow on from this is that when Snakeoil salesmen come peddling their shit, I have the weight of evidence to backup my position, thus my position goes unchanged. whereas the Asses are only able to go:

bwaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa

[Katman]

By SALLY BECK, Mail on Sunday

28/05/2006

It does tend to call into question the claim that no-one has ever been able to replicate Andrew Wakefield's findings though, doesn't it?

[mashman]

By SALLY BECK, Mail on Sunday

28/05/2006

It's a report. Reporters are often known to make reports

I'll shift any position when there is sufficient evidence for it. The problem you have here is that half of your beliefs are just that Beliefs without evidence. I prefer to look up the evidence for the claims and let the weight of the evidence determine what I hold to be true.

The follow on from this is that when Snakeoil salesmen come peddling their shit, I have the weight of evidence to backup my position, thus my position goes unchanged. whereas the Asses are only able to go:

My beliefs are entirely with evidence. That you actually think that you know what my beliefs are show that you haven't shifted position 1 iota

No, you have the weight of what other people say is valid evidence. You simply ignore, with lashings of irony, the evidence that doesn't fit with your diatribe... even when one guy, Thompson, steps up and claims that they ditched valid evidence on purpose. In fact the same guy goes on further to state that he's seen things that make his toes curl. Not only that, you've even got: “The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness.” - Editor in Chief of the Lancet.



My heart goes out to all of the scientists whose motive is the science, both good and bad. Shame that bad doesn't sell pills/vaccines etc... eh.

[Swoop]

I find that hard to believe. I can feel the diff between big sugar loads. I have no doubt whatsoever children even more so.

Especially once "Little Johnny" has had a jab of a needle and felt "a bit unhappy". Luckily, mummy provides a nice Monster fizzy drink to help and "reward" the kiddy-wink after the jab. (Then wonders what the fuck has happened and creates a link to the "jab").

[mashman]

It does tend to call into question the claim that no-one has ever been able to replicate Andrew Wakefield's findings though, doesn't it?

Even when they're not looking for it

[TheDemonLord]

Scientists fear MMR link to autism. I hope you've got a massive humble pie to hand out Katman. You might well need it by the sounds of things

Oh look.

An Article that supports your view that doesn't cite sources!

How Compelling!

(you were saying something about not being able to Logic and Stupidity?)

Just for you, though here is some additional info:

The researcher mentioned in the article says research does not prove any connection

Starting Page 148, under the title 'The preliminary findings of the Walker Study

Key points to note:

1: The study was not published nor peer reviewed
2: They did not have negative controls required for such an experiment

So well done - You've managed to fail epically on 5 counts:

- Original article had no citations
- Original researcher has correct claims that his research shows a causal link
- Research was not published
- Research was not Peer Reviewed
- No negative controls in the study

I like my Pie Apple, with Cream and Ice Cream - you and Katman had better get Baking.

[TheDemonLord]

It does tend to call into question the claim that no-one has ever been able to replicate Andrew Wakefield's findings though, doesn't it?

Cause it doesn't - see above.