Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Honest Andy]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12086295

Read it you wanker

[husaberg]

Have you seen a kid with measles?

You're a miserable cunt if you want to put a kid through that.

He has no kids. Apparently he was to narcissistic to consider not being the center of attention.

I've already pointed out that back in the 60's measles parties were commonplace, whereby a child with measles invited all their friends around so they could all contract the illness - and in doing so, gain natural (lifetime) immunity.

Then someone discovered vast sums of money could be made from a vaccine.

Deaths from easily prevented diseases were also comonplace then.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12086295

That would be the second thing that defines you as one.
Note how its news .
If there was a cover up or it was common place it would not be Headline News

[Katman]

Deaths from easily prevented diseases were also comonplace then.

The number of deaths from measles had fallen dramatically over a 40 year period prior to the introduction of the measles vaccine.

[husaberg]

The number of deaths from measles had fallen dramatically over a 40 year period prior to the introduction of the measles vaccine.

We have been through this all before, So what happened in Japan when they stopped vaccination again due to a scare by wakefeilds FOS claims

n 2011, the WHO estimated that 158,000 deaths were caused by measles. This is down from 630,000 deaths in 1990. As of 2013, measles remains the leading cause of vaccine-preventable deaths in the world. In developed countries, death occurs in one to two cases out of every 1,000 (0.1–0.2%).

Measles is a highly contagious, serious disease caused by a virus. Before the introduction of measles vaccine in 1963 and widespread vaccination, major epidemics occurred approximately every 2–3 years and measles caused an estimated 2.6 million deaths each year.
The disease remains one of the leading causes of death among young children globally, despite the availability of a safe and effective vaccine. Approximately 89 780 people died from measles in 2016 – mostly children under the age of 5 years.

Measles is caused by a virus in the paramyxovirus family and it is normally passed through direct contact and through the air. The virus infects the respiratory tract , then spreads throughout the body. Measles is a human disease and is not known to occur in animals.

Accelerated immunization activities have had a major impact on reducing measles deaths. During 2000–2016, measles vaccination prevented an estimated 20.4 million deaths. Global measles deaths have decreased by 84% from an estimated 550 100 in 2000* to 89 780 in 2016.
Most measles-related deaths are caused by complications associated with the disease. Serious complications are more common in children under the age of 5, or adults over the age of 30. The most serious complications include blindness, encephalitis (an infection that causes brain swelling), severe diarrhoea and related dehydration, ear infections, or severe respiratory infections such as pneumonia. Severe measles is more likely among poorly nourished young children, especially those with insufficient vitamin A, or whose immune systems have been weakened by HIV/AIDS or other diseases.

In populations with high levels of malnutrition, particularly vitamin A deficiency, and a lack of adequate health care, about 3–6%, of measles cases result in death, and in displaced groups, up to 30% of cases result in death. Women infected while pregnant are also at risk of severe complications and the pregnancy may end in miscarriage or preterm delivery. People who recover from measles are immune for the rest of their lives.

[Katman]

We have been through this all before

You're right, we've been through this before.

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=de...v_JRPk7iJzrHM:

[husaberg]

You're right, we've been through this before.

https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=de...v_JRPk7iJzrHM:

You looked like an idiot then as well.

[Katman]

You looked like an idiot then as well.

[husaberg]

Everytime you post the same old out of context data proves you are an idiot.
lets look at real data in context and not averages in the developed world and with actual numbers. Note your linked graphs don't take into account population growth which is another reason why you are an idiot


If you are so smart maybe you would like to explain how you claim to know more the the WHO does

During 2000–2016, measles vaccination prevented an estimated 20.4 million deaths. Global measles deaths have decreased by 84% from an estimated 550 100 in 2000* to 89 780 in 2016.

[Katman]

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle=2686728

[Katman]

And it turns out a further two Samoan babies have died over the last couple of years after receiving the MMR vaccine. (Not that the media thought it important enough to report on).

And yet there are still fuckwits out there who will happily call for mandatory vaccinations.

[Woodman]

And it turns out a further two Samoan babies have died over the last couple of years after receiving the MMR vaccine. (Not that the media thought it important enough to report on).

And yet there are still fuckwits out there who will happily call for mandatory vaccinations.

Was it stored correctly, was it administered correctly? Do the same fuckwits who call for mandatory vaccinations also want the vaccines stored and administered correctly? probably.

[Katman]

Was it stored correctly, was it administered correctly? Do the same fuckwits who call for mandatory vaccinations also want the vaccines stored and administered correctly? probably.

Here's some homework for you.

In the last two years four children in Samoa have died after being given the MMR vaccine.

How many children in Samoa died of measles in the last two years?

[Woodman]

Here's some homework for you.

In the last two years four children in Samoa have died after being given the MMR vaccine.

How many children in Samoa died of measles in the last two years?

Wouldn't it be best to find out if it was administered correctly first? and any other relevant information before using a tabloid style statistic.

[Katman]

Wouldn't it be best to find out if it was administered correctly first?

Whether it was administered correctly or not doesn't make the slightest change to my opinion on mandatory vaccination.

[Woodman]

Whether it was administered correctly or not doesn't make the slightest change to my opinion on mandatory vaccination.

Then why did you reference the four deaths in Samoa? surely it wasn't to use ambiguous information to sway opinion in favour of your agenda.