Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[husaberg]

The study has several limitations. First, it is not peer-reviewed. It does not consider factors such as the spouse’s occupation, the presence of children at home, the actual work environments of participants, or whether individuals held additional jobs.


Furthermore, the effectiveness of the vaccine depends on the specific flu strains circulating at the time. The study began when the vaccine was first rolled out, yet it typically takes about two months for full immunity to develop.


It also has a testing bias: vaccinated individuals were more likely to get tested for the flu. Meanwhile, some unvaccinated individuals may have already contracted the flu before the study began or during previous seasons, which could skew the results.


The study also did not assess the severity of outcomes, such as hospitalisations or long-term effects caused by the virus. It excluded data from people who self-isolated or used home flu tests.


Lastly, behavioral differences flu history between vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals were not addressed, particularly in terms of their likelihood to seek testing or modify their behavior after receiving the vaccine.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...450v1.full.pdf


TBH It's a better study than most that particular conspiracy idiot normally presents, granted, but it is not being used as the author's intended unit to be.

Look at all them filters
Can you imagine even half of them being applied to vaccine approvals

Are you perhaps overlooking something pretty evident to everyone who can read? The limitations are clearly outlined in plain English in the paper your associate shared, along with a disclaimer explicitly cautioning against drawing the conclusions that both you and Karenfromtaupo appear eager to reach.


All the studies you like to deride are actually held to higher standards, as they are peer-reviewed.
Maybe you should educate yourself to what is expected in a rational scientific paper, Before you go embarrassing yourself further?

[SaferRides]

Are you perhaps overlooking something pretty evident to everyone who can read? The limitations are clearly outlined in plain English in the paper your associate shared, along with a disclaimer explicitly cautioning against drawing the conclusions that both you and Karenfromtaupo appear eager to reach.


All the studies you like to deride are actually held to higher standards, as they are peer-reviewed.
Maybe you should educate yourself to what is expected in a rational scientific paper, Before you go embarrassing yourself further?

Far be it from me to defend anti-vaxers, but the note at the start states: "This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed.". It does not mean that it will not be peer reviewed or that the conclusions are invalid.



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[husaberg]

Far be it from me to defend anti-vaxers, but the note at the start states: "This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed.". It does not mean that it will not be peer reviewed or that the conclusions are invalid.



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No of course not, but one should not draw conclusions before it is, but given all the other limitations and the authors own limitations they point out on, how it should be used. Then you factor how in the conspiracy idiots are trying to use it. What is especially telling is the two conspiracy cretins like to claim all other scientific papers that have actually been peer reviewed somehow don't meet their degree of evidentiary requirements. But to be fair conspiracy confirmation bias is often highly hypocritical like this.

[Katman]

No of course not, but one should not draw conclusions before it is,

Exactly what conclusions were drawn?

I simply shared a link to a study.

[SaferRides]

Exactly what conclusions were drawn?

I simply shared a link to a study.

I'd suggest that you read it as it is a short paper. Or at least an AI summary.

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[husaberg]

Exactly what conclusions were drawn?

I simply shared a link to a study.

Yeah and P Diddy just likes baby oil, maybe you might want to read the study in full before posting it as being part of anything aside from your own naivety?
If only you dedicated as much effort to understanding other people's posts as you do to twisting them to fit your narrative.

However, given your predictable and one-dimensional approach, we can confidently draw several conclusions from all of your posts in this discussion
Paranoia
Narcissism
dunning krugger
conspiracy theories
Grandiose sense of self importance
impotence
homoerotic fantasies
desperate need for attention.
so desperate have you became for attention that any attention will do whilst you truly to convince yourself you are making people angry the truth is the only emotion you generate from me with your posts is pity and mirth at your predictability and general lack of intellect and sophistication.

If anyone needs evidence, just look at your claims of being a mechanic alongside your posts linking to an engine that runs on coffee, where you label the inventor as a 'modern-day Tesla.'


Your ongoing defense of what is clearly a hoax, coupled with your persistent refusal to acknowledge it as a scam, is astonishing. It seems your narcissistic ego is preventing you from admitting what is obvious to anyone with even half a brain cell.

Some further info.


http://www.geetfriends.net/


He sounds like the modern day Nikola Tesla.

As a joke I added some of your posts into a program we use at work ,this what it analyses about your posts? The results speak for themselves.

Paranoia, narcissism, the Dunning-Kruger effect, and belief in conspiracy theories are all complex psychological phenomena that can impact an individual's thoughts, beliefs, and behaviors. Belief in conspiracy theories entails the acceptance of explanations that attribute events to secret plots by powerful groups.These terms reflect a range of psychological concepts and traits, often associated with mental health and interpersonal dynamics. Paranoia involves irrational distrust, while narcissism denotes an excessive focus on oneself, often accompanied by a grandiose sense of self-importance. Impotence can refer to feelings of powerlessness, and homoerotic fantasies may explore complex sexual desires. The Dunning-Kruger effect highlights the cognitive bias where individuals with low ability overestimate their competence, while conspiracy theories represent a tendency to attribute complex events to secret plots.

[pritch]

This news is depressing if hardly surprising. What would you expect from a guy who says a worm ate part of his brain and died but that he'd surround himself with other idiots.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/head-rfk-...201913530.html

[Katman]

This news is depressing if hardly surprising.

Yahoo News.

That's a new level of desperation - even for you.

[husaberg]

Yahoo News.

That's a new level of desperation - even for you.

As per normal you choose to ignore facts in preference to narcissistic projection of your inadequacies onto others
https://www.iflscience.com/scientist...sm-study-78573
https://autisticadvocacy.org/2025/03...for-hhs-study/
https://www.medpagetoday.com/neurology/autism/114853
https://www.mbp.state.md.us/BPQAPP/o...425008.222.pdf

oh look they just happened to invent a cure at the exact same time for a problem they created that never existed in any recorded prior or since just like old mate wakefeild
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2009/...unk-science-2/
You remember Wakefield the well known fraud that was struck off and has been proven in court to be a fraud many times over?
Where these guys modern day "teslas" like your geet engine inventor?

Some further info.
http://www.geetfriends.net/
He sounds like the modern day Nikola Tesla.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Yahoo News.
That's a new level of desperation - even for you.

A genuine bit of nonsense is what it is "Head of New RFK Jr. Vaccine Study Practiced Unlicensed Medicine on Autistic Kids"

Wow! Practicing Unlicensed Medicine.... What does that even mean (for context)?? Here's what the UK Govt have to say about it. https://www.gov.uk/drug-safety-updat...sponsibilities

The use of medicines outside of any license scope. Kinda like every single time a yet to be licensed medicine is trialed by a pharmaceutical company or University eh! FFS A big fat nothing burger wrapped in glitter for attention. Pffffffft

As per normal you choose to ignore facts in preference to narcissistic projection of your inadequacies onto others
https://www.iflscience.com/scientist...sm-study-78573
https://autisticadvocacy.org/2025/03...for-hhs-study/
https://www.medpagetoday.com/neurology/autism/114853
https://www.mbp.state.md.us/BPQAPP/o...425008.222.pdf

oh look they just happened to invent a cure at the exact same time for a problem they created that never existed in any recorded prior or since just like old mate wakefeild
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2009/...unk-science-2/
You remember Wakefield the well known fraud that was struck off and has been proven in court to be a fraud many times over?
Where these guys modern day "teslas" like your geet engine inventor?

You allege projection in ignorance of facts then proceed to perform your own projection using links (presumably to illustrate how it is done with support of facts). Yet three of the links are simply (true to your form) character assassination pieces and the other one simply confirms that a single State medical board (only 1 of 50) deemed that a loss of license (in 1 state) was warranted in relation to what they (and only they) deemed to be unacceptable practices. Hardly compelling stuff and not a single "fact" that addresses any aspect of the study claims.

As for the rest of your turd polishing instruction... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that it is even less relevant to the study.

It appears that you are less about genuinely helpful discourse to share your views and contribute to balancing what you see as incorrect information sources by providing valuable factual information, than you are about the underhanded practice of discrediting sources through character assassination.

The need for such shit tactics tells us that you either lack the skills to succinctly present real facts to support your views or the facts that you need to do so don't exist. I don't know you from a bar of soap, but from what I see, I am grateful of that much.

[husaberg]

A genuine bit of nonsense is what it is "Head of New RFK Jr. Vaccine Study Practiced Unlicensed Medicine on Autistic Kids"

Wow! Practicing Unlicensed Medicine.... What does that even mean (for context)?? Here's what the UK Govt have to say about it. https://www.gov.uk/drug-safety-updat...sponsibilities

The use of medicines outside of any license scope. Kinda like every single time a yet to be licensed medicine is trialed by a pharmaceutical company or University eh! FFS A big fat nothing burger wrapped in glitter for attention. Pffffffft




You allege projection in ignorance of facts then proceed to perform your own projection using links (presumably to illustrate how it is done with support of facts). Yet three of the links are simply (true to your form) character assassination pieces and the other one simply confirms that a single State medical board (only 1 of 50) deemed that a loss of license (in 1 state) was warranted in relation to what they (and only they) deemed to be unacceptable practices. Hardly compelling stuff and not a single "fact" that addresses any aspect of the study claims.

As for the rest of your turd polishing. instruction... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that it is even less relevant to the study.

It appears that you are less about genuinely helpful discourse to share your views and contribute to balancing what you see as incorrect information sources by providing valuable factual information, than you are about the underhanded practice of discrediting sources through character assassination.

The need for such shit tactics tells us that you either lack the skills to succinctly present real facts to support your views or the facts that you need to do so don't exist. I don't know you from a bar of soap, but from what I see, I am grateful of that much

Well what can I say to logic like that only in your mind that diminished the fact it was all that was in the articles have not been legally challenged and were based on the criminal records I also attached.... you can call it character assassination if you want....its not going to change the facts they were found guilty of.

That said you really need to be far more carefully with what you because Katman is going to think you are trying to take the title he's had for 20 odd year of being the most pathetic gullible oxygen thief on KB. As a narcissist he does tend to get jealous of those that muscle in on his turf. Or drop his soap in the shower as it were....

[Katman]

Well what can I say to logic like that only in your mind that diminished the fact it was all that was in the articles have not been legally challenged and were based on the criminal records I also attached.... you can call it character assassination if you want....nits not going to change the facts they were found guilty off.

That said you really need to be far more carefully with what you because Katman is going to think you are trying to talked the title he's had for 20 odd year of being the most pathetic gullible oxygen thief on KB. As a narcissist he does tend to get jealous of those that muscle in on his turf. Or drop his soap in the shower as it were....

Is that even English?

[flyingcrocodile46]

Well what can I say to logic like that only in your mind that diminished the fact it was all that was in the articles have not been legally challenged and were based on the criminal records I also attached.... you can call it character assassination if you want....nits not going to change the facts they were found guilty off.

That said you really need to be far more carefully with what you because Katman is going to think you are trying to talked the title he's had for 20 odd year of being the most pathetic gullible oxygen thief on KB. As a narcissist he does tend to get jealous of those that muscle in on his turf. Or drop his soap in the shower as it were....

Someone appears to have been in emo mode and got their fingers and tongue all tangled up huh

Quite the hot mess.

If your quick, you will edit it before anyone else can see it

[husaberg]

Someone appears to have been in emo mode and got their fingers and tongue all tangled up huh

Quite the hot mess.

If your quick, you will edit it before anyone else can see it

Bonez Axhole assringerGTR could never figure out YOU'RE rather than your either.

Is that even English?

is that the way you reminder it......

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1131148708

[Katman]

Bonez Axhole GTR could never figure out YOUR'E rather than your either.