Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Katman]

Like it's 3 years on from roll out and there's none of the magnetism or nanobots or any of that stuff.

Plenty of excess deaths and soaring cancer rates though.

[SaferRides]

What the fuck are you babbling about? Your personal experience observations are meaningless. I haven't bothered telling everyone that of the thousands of people who I have been maintained contact with over that last 5 years, I have not observed any deaths from covid19. None ..Zero Nor have any of those thousands of people (and their many contacts) known (first hand) of anyone else who was said to have died directly from covid. Neither have any of those (likely tens of thousands of people been subject to serious consequence of contracting covid (i.e no more than a week or three of moderate misery similar to the flu).


Further "my own observation" is the complete polar opposite in relation to victims of the covid vaccines.
If you discount all of the claimed 'covid related' deaths of people that occurred as a result of underlying medical conditions (which could just as easily been triggered by a really bad flu the actual number of covid only deaths is very small (compared to the population. Funny how the usual flu death rate completely disappeared while we were ravaged by covid (yes, that too was attributed to covid). lack of access to medical care for routine treatment of people with serious medical conditions during the lockdowns was like a death sentence for many of those people (yes, there deaths also attributed to covid).


Ask a few AI services yourself "How many deaths around the world have occurred directly and only from Covid19 and what that number is expressed as a percentage of the population?".


The answer will include a lot of algorithmically driven political reasons to include those who died as a result of conditions that a really bad flu and total lockdown (no access to routine treatments) could have triggered, but the bottom line is that the percentage of the global population that died from COVID-19 based on the official figure of 7.1 million is approximately 0.09%
Does any of that count in your world??


I wouldn't play Russian Roulette based on the possibility of maybe being protected from a sub1% risk of death. This is really the point I was attempting to make when I started this thread way back in 2013. It didn't seem to help any of the 92-98% of ya'll who went ahead.put the barrel to the temple and pulled the trigger.

You're not helping yourself. I had to read that a few times to even understand what you were trying to say.

This thread has been interesting at times in the past, but the admins should do us all a favour now and lock it.



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[Kickaha]

Plenty of excess deaths and soaring cancer rates though.

Cancer rates have been increasing rapidly since 1990

[Katman]

Cancer rates have been increasing rapidly since 1990

'Turbo' cancers are a more recent phenomena.

[husaberg]

'Turbo' cancers are a more recent phenomena.

Yeah correct, it was only recently that the claimed existence of Turbo cancers was made up by antivaxers.....

There is no scientific evidence for a condition called "turbo cancer". "Turbo cancer" is not a medically recognized term and is considered a myth or conspiracy theory by the medical and scientific community. The term is primarily used in anti-vaccine circles to describe supposedly aggressive or fast-developing cancers linked to COVID-19 vaccination, a claim that is biologically implausible and unsupported by data.
Major health and cancer institutions, including the U.S. National Cancer Institute, the American Cancer Society, and the World Health Organization, have explicitly stated that there is no evidence that COVID-19 vaccines cause cancer, lead to its recurrence, or accelerate its progression.

What's the bet you are so deluded you will claim to be a more reputable source than the U.S. National Cancer Institute, the American Cancer Society, and the World Health Organization.

[pritch]

'Turbo' cancers are a more recent phenomena.

The name shouts amateurish nonsense. I looked it up and the results said "myth" "conspiracy theory" and "invention". For normal people that should be the end of it.

[flyingcrocodile46]

You're not helping yourself. I had to read that a few times to even understand what you were trying to say.

This thread has been interesting at times in the past, but the admins should do us all a favour now and lock it.



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Setting aside your comprehension frustrations I am sure that many of the anti (misappropriately called) "anti-vaxxers" would like it shut down as the denial of logic and evidence is getting harder & harder with every new report and head stone, some of you are starting to feel a bit stoopid, and that is a real downer for your endorphin levels and self esteem. So I understand. Just shut your eyes and go back to sleep.

[husaberg]

Setting aside your comprehension frustrations I am sure that many of the anti (misappropriately called) "anti-vaxxers" would like it shut down as the denial of logic and evidence is getting harder & harder with every new report and head stone, some of you are starting to feel a bit stoopid, and that is a real downer for your endorphin levels and self esteem. So I understand. Just shut your eyes and go back to sleep.

No one is shutting done down any talk. you just refuse to produce any evidence and get upset and run off and hide when you are challenged about it.
So show us all a credible scientific paper that even mentions the actual existence of 'turbo cancer', which itself is an outstandingly ''unscientific'' term. A term itself, it seems that never actually existed in any search results I can find before 2019.

[Katman]

So show usall a credible scientific paper that even mentions the actual existence of 'turbo cancer', which itself is an outstandingly ''unscientific'' term. A term itself, it seems that never actually existed in any search results I can find before 2019.

It's cancer that acts so aggressively that the time from diagnosis till death is very short.

You can call it 'really fast cancer' if it makes you happier.

[husaberg]

It's cancer that acts so aggressively that the time from diagnosis till death is very short.

You can call it 'really fast cancer' if it makes you happier.

It would make everyone happy for you to produce a single scientific paper that even claims turbo cancer exists in the actual real world.
but hey for you, evidence is likely some antivax echo chamber on facebook. Or a YouTube video of a discredited heroine addicted chiropactor from Gutamula.

You have a long history of ''coming up short'' when it comes to backing up your claims.

Like the time you claimed farmers send 100kg plus rodeo calves to the works when the works don't accept cattle this size.
Or that time you claimed there were numerous alternatives to 1080 on the vast inaccessible areas of NZ, yet you couldn't name a single one.
Or that time you claimed some animals were poisoned on their own property by 1080, when by the owner's own admission, they had wandered into a DOC area.
Or that time you posted an engine (the Geet)that was a well-known fraud, that was supposed to run on coffee or water and you refused to admit it was a made-up piece of shit. You even called him a modern-day Nikola Tesla when in truth, he said he got the technology from an angel named Mrs Cunningham. Yet He invented nothing other than reusing a new way to scam the money of idiots.
Or that time you claimed there were no gas chambers at in German concentration camps, when even the two convicted fraudsters you quoted as being proof there were none, admitted freely themselves that it was obvious there were gas chambers.
Or that time you kept claiming ad nauseam, the WTC buildings fell at free-fall speed, when they clearly did not
Or that time you claimed they collapsed into their own footprints when they clearly did not.
Or that time when you quoted state trooper Lyle Szupink as saying something, he clearly did not, about United Airlines Flight 93.
Or that time you claimed over and over that an engine was found to be a distance away from the crash site when it was in fact, found less than a third of that distance.
Or that time you kept claiming passports, which were never found intact after a high-speed impact like 911, when in fact they commonly are.
Or that time you claimed the UFA investigation was independent, full or transparent, when it was clearly none of these three.
Or those times you repeatedly make and pass on false claims about vaccines and vaccine safety, often implying you know more than genuine medical experts, when you have no medical training at all.
Or that time you claimed it was uncommon for bikes to have footpegs mounted to the swingarm when tens, if not 100's of millions of bikes were made in over 120 models with this exact setup.

[Berries]

Setting aside your comprehension frustrations I am sure that many of the anti (misappropriately called) "anti-vaxxers" would like it shut down as the denial of logic and evidence is getting harder & harder with every new report and head stone, some of you are starting to feel a bit stoopid, and that is a real downer for your endorphin levels and self esteem.

Has anyone seen my camel?

[pritch]

Setting aside your comprehension frustrations I am sure that many of the anti (misappropriately called) "anti-vaxxers" would like it shut down as the denial of logic and evidence is getting harder & harder with every new report and head stone, some of you are starting to feel a bit stoopid, and that is a real downer for your endorphin levels and self esteem. So I understand. Just shut your eyes and go back to sleep.

It seems likely that your understanding of words like 'logic' and 'evidence' is unrealistically flexible.

[jellywrestler]

It's cancer that acts so aggressively that the time from diagnosis till death is very short.

You can call it 'really fast cancer' if it makes you happier.

oh, you mean one of those that wasn't diagnosed earlier and when it was it was too far gone, ?

[flyingcrocodile46]

On the eve of Red Remembrance Day, when we sense that many of us 5 years into this fight are tired and in need of a boost, we wanted to share this inspiring open letter from our friend and ally Andrew Hemingway the founder of Sacréd Health.

Andrew's Message for Red Remembrance Day The reason we support NZDSOS is as obvious as a gash to the hand. We were all walked up to the red line by our state and they crossed it. We lived our moment of fear that at on any day the police could knock on our doors and force a jab on us, force you out of work, force you to comply. And they threatened our children. We’re all here for a reason. We were tested - and we stood up. We found leaders who planted a flag and said, “No further.” Each of us chose to unite, to protect our families and to never let that line be crossed again. That’s why I came to our heroes with this dream: The dream to draw us together to strengthen our supply lines and build health and resilience before the next storm. Just as I have said that our health isn’t won in a crisis - it’s built every day. The same goes for our legal fights, awareness, push back, we need to build the coffers now not when the fight is upon us. There's no point coming home and finding a thug sitting in your house holding your family hostage and you say to yourself, right, I'll just pop down to the gym, get strong and return. It's too late. And yet, in a nation where the majority of us already use supplements, funding NZDSOS by choosing Sacréd Health should be an obvious act of unity and action. Yet few of us have taken up the call. When I ask myself, why? Are we just so busy, distracted, dulled by life's noise - Possibly. I have slipped into that cycle myself, trying to shout louder to gain attention and in turn becoming just more noise, when really there is no reason to shout, we are all here for the same reason. But when I look closer at myself I am confronted with a reality I need to confess and remember. If “never again” is real, we must prepare together - build strength daily and remember why we began. As Red Remembrance Day nears, my confession is simple: in my efforts and busyness, I forgot. I forgot. I forgot why I'm here. I forgot the police standing outside of my shop waiting to arrest me if I failed to comply with the regime. I forgot the thousands that screamed at me for just saying, no. I forgot the slithering tone of the 'journalists' as they tried to lay word traps for me. Crafting their articles to one end, to seek my public humiliation and financial destruction. As tools of the government they attempted to lynch me in the court of public opinion as a warning to you. Comply with the state or this will be your fate. I forgot the tragically sad vitriol of social media posters gleefully hoping for my failure and wishing hate and harm on my family. I forgot the many confrontations in our shop. I forgot my son being physically attacked by staff and security at a local supermarket for not wearing a mask. That one of my employees 'coincidentally' lost the baby she carried just after her jab. That people in my circle died suddenly of cancer or of another's rapid decline into dementia. That my daughters lived in fear of their children being taken from them if they didn't take the jab. That other business publically followed my lead and did lose their businesses, their life savings. People were destroyed. That the state showed itself as not of us, but of them. That, the mass hate and mistrust that entered our lives then, hasn't left. That family denounced me. That friends became few. I have forgotten so many more moments like these, which, by their number become so commonplace as to be unremarkable and as such, forgotten. Then the thought creeps in, perhaps I have become accustomed and accepted this new normal. Have I? No I have not, but... I forgot. I forgot that I told myself, never again. That I turned towards the trouble, not away. That we will be crushed in the next crisis, if we don't prepare today. I forgot that I will not let my grandchildren's future be stolen from them. I forgot that I am among allies and friends and heroes. I forgot my need to be called to recall. So it can't be again, to remember it all. I remember. Andrew Hemingway Founder, Sacréd Health