Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[husaberg]

with your theme song

[Katman]

https://worldmercuryproject.org/unca...accine-safety/

[RDJ]

https://worldmercuryproject.org/unca...accine-safety/

I understand I am feeding a troll, but for those who don’t know the background of the so-called mercury conspiracy in the K-Minion’s latest pufflink, alleging amongst other accusations that mercury is two orders of magnitude more dangerous than lead and other bovine flatus expelled from anti-vaccine effwits, I direct you to just one peanut in this particularly offensive turd masquerading as knowledge.

Q asked by the self-beclowning author of this effluvium:

Why would the public believe the CDC, when it owns 50+ patents on vaccines and takes in more than $4 billion a year by distributing vaccines?

Firstly, if you’re going to tar and feather every company that makes billions in profits off the distribution of goods and services, go right ahead. I’ll wait. Presumably you are living in a cave and never buy any parts / shop anywhere at all / keep your flax pants held up with the dried sinews of road-killed possums.

Trying to persuade people that vaccines are worthless something because somebody makes a profit selling them is nonsense on extra elongated stilts. Making a profit is how you pay for additional research and development like developing new vaccines.

Like all taxpayer-funded organisations, CDC should try to be cost-effective as well as safely effective.

Remember that the invention of the patent system was and is a huge benefit to people all around the world; individuals and businesses can invest heavily in time and money sometimes literally over decades and then being granted a patented with a successful discovery or invention, can recoup their research and development costs as well is making the discovery available for everybody to benefit from. And yes, some of those people who benefit will also make a profit.

If you don’t believe in making a profit, then go and live in Venezuelan. You’ll feel very at home there.

Secondly, CDC’s entire, total, complete budget is around $7 billion a year. (*Start here: https://www.cdc.gov/funding/document...ual-report.pdf )

If you research the CDC budget which is also available online, the line-item breakdown has only one 1-billion budget item and that’s not income from vaccines. This is a taxpayer-funded program that provides vaccines to "children who might not otherwise be vaccinated because of inability to pay." That’s $1 billion going out from the CDC, dork, not coming in.

But no doubt you gonna whine ‘but what about royalties? I bet they’re hiding something there.’ Well, in 2016 the CDC made a shade under $148 million from patent royalty income which is less than 2% of their budget. Yeah, pretty much it is likely that some of that comes from patent licensing of vaccines. And why should it not.

Summary: you are hereby awarded around about 18 Pinocchios to add to your collection. You're gonna need a bigger shelf.

[Katman]

Firstly, if you’re going to tar and feather every company that makes billions in profits off the distribution of goods and services, go right ahead. I’ll wait. Presumably you are living in a cave and never buy any parts / shop anywhere at all / keep your flax pants held up with the dried sinews of road-killed possums.

Trying to persuade people that vaccines are worthless something because somebody makes a profit selling them is nonsense on extra elongated stilts. Making a profit is how you pay for additional research and development like developing new tax seems.

I love the way you choose to ignore conflicts of interest when doing so suits your purpose.

And nobody is begrudging the pharmaceutical industry for making a profit - it is the obscene extent of that profit that is repugnant.

Take a closer look at the comparison between expenditure on research and development and that spent on marketing.

[TheDemonLord]

https://worldmercuryproject.org/unca...accine-safety/

What a Joke...

Why has the CDC refused to compare the overall health of vaccinated children compared to unvaccinated children?

Yeah! Those third world countries with no Vaccinations have the HEALTHIEST populations in the world!

Why does the CDC only assess the efficacy of vaccines in preventing infectious disease and never assess the potential long-term effects?

I'll give them a hint - Vaccines are made from Viruses.

We know what the long term effects of the Virus is.

See if you can extrapolate from that why the question is retarded

Why are vaccines not required to undergo the same rigorous safety testing required for other prescription products?

Because they work in a completely different manner. She may as well be asking "Why aren't bicycle manufacturers required to undergo NCAAP testing like Cars are! They both have wheels and go on the road"

Why does our government continue to promote vaccines as safe and effective when it has paid out more than $3.6 billion to families of vaccine-injured children through the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program? Why does our government claim vaccines don’t cause autism when we know at least 83 of those claims are linked to autism and vaccines?

a: Because it's been the single greatest increase in Health for the Globe, even greater than Anti-biotics. How many people do you know that have died of Smallpox since it was eradicated in the wild thanks to a Vaccination campaign.
b: There are known risks with Vaccines, however compared to the known risks of not being Vaccinated - it's like comparing the 1 in 10,000 accident where someone wearing a seatbelt caused greater injury to the risk of injury when not wearing a seatbelt
c: Vaccines don't cause Autism. There have been umpteen studies done on this since Andrew Wakefield (a fraud, conman and disgraced Doctor) attempted to create a made-up condition, in order to sell a 'cure' for profit (you know - the thing you accuse 'Big Pharma' of doing)

[Katman]

Yeah! Those third world countries with no Vaccinations have the HEALTHIEST populations in the world!

Except there was a recent study that compared vaccinated children with unvaccinated children from the same environmental situation.

But you didn't like the results of that study, did you?

[TheDemonLord]

And nobody is begrudging the pharmaceutical industry for making a profit - it is the obscene extent of that profit that is repugnant.

Except you ARE begrudging them making a profit - because you deem it too high.

I love it when you contradict yourself.

[Katman]

c: Vaccines don't cause Autism. There have been umpteen studies done on this since Andrew Wakefield (a fraud, conman and disgraced Doctor) attempted to create a made-up condition, in order to sell a 'cure' for profit (you know - the thing you accuse 'Big Pharma' of doing)

And yet there have been numerous studies that show a link between aluminium and NDDs.

But you didn't like those studies either, did you?

[Katman]

Except you ARE begrudging them making a profit - because you deem it too high.

I love it when you contradict yourself.

There's that autism again.

[pritch]

Please don't think I'm supporting Katman's theories, I'm not.

Big Pharma in the US is rapacious in the way it operates. Then there's the arsehols like Shkrelli. He bought a company that made a pill that cost about a dollar to make. It used to sell for about $2.00 then the company was bought out and the price increased by several dollars. Forget "research" it's irrelevant in this case. Along comes Shkrelli and ups the price by about 8000%. There is only one pill that does this job, there is no other. If you have the parasite you need this pill, but it has been around for many decades so it has paid all of the research costs.

Similarly the company that makes the Epi pens, used by people suffering anaphylactic shock, was recently taken over and the price hiked hugely. The price was reduced when the word got out that the woman who was CEO of the company was the daughter of a current US politician. The heat went on dad and he resumably let the girl know she wasn't helping the cause and the price came back. Some.

The chemical companies artificially inflate the prices of their products because the US medical insurance companies expect a big discount. Tough shit if you haven't got an insurance company. Every now and then there's a stir in the US, usually when they find that the Canadians are paying far less for some drug or other. I suspect there'd be an uproar if the Yanks found out what Pharmac are paying.




Ask your doctor if covfefe is right for you.

[TheDemonLord]

Except there was a recent study that compared vaccinated children with unvaccinated children from the same environmental situation.

But you didn't like the results of that study, did you?

Cause the study had flaws? Because the Control group wasn't an accurate representation of the wider Population?

You are right - I DIDN'T like the study.

[Katman]

Then there's the arsehols like Shkrelli. He bought a company that made a pill that cost about a dollar to make. It used to sell for about $2.00 then the company was bought out and the price increased by several dollars.

Now there's an understatement and a half.

Diaprim went from $13.50 per dose to $750 per dose - overnight.

[Katman]

Because the Control group wasn't an accurate representation of the wider Population?

In what way?

[Katman]

Similarly the company that makes the Epi pens, used by people suffering anaphylactic shock, was recently taken over and the price hiked hugely. The price was reduced when the word got out that the woman who was CEO of the company was the daughter of a current US politician. The heat went on dad and he resumably let the girl know she wasn't helping the cause and the price came back. Some.

And they recently rewarded the former CEO with a $98,000,000 bonus.

(Yes, that's $98 million).

[TheDemonLord]

And yet there have been numerous studies that show a link between aluminium and NDDs.

But you didn't like those studies either, did you?

Well - is it Mercury or is it Aluminium?

Or do you not have a clue and are grasping at whatever straw fits your agenda?


(hint - it's the latter)