Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Katman]

From samples that could have been tampered with or contaminated because there was no chain of evidence?

They openly explain all of those possibilities in the paper.

It's left to the reader to form their own opinion.

[Katman]

From samples that could have been tampered with or contaminated because there was no chain of evidence?

Let's not forget about the chain of evidence showing the World Health Organisation's obsession with producing a 'vaccine' that could be used to achieve a reduction in population growth.

[Katman]

But furthermore - lets assume for the minute that the researchers are genuine (and not desperately trying to reach a a priori conclusion) - They know the standards (after all, it should be part of their methodology) so why include a measurement from a Lab that cannot be used?

Because it showed yet another independent laboratory finding the presence of HCG in the supposed Tetanus vaccine - regardless of the fact that the laboratory couldn't measure it down to an international standard.

[Katman]

Funnily enough, no...

But nice try....

What you really need to understand is that I really don't give a fuck that you love vaccines.

You're welcome to vaccinate your child as often as you like.

It's when I start hearing calls for mandatory vaccination that my libertarian piss starts to boil.

[TheDemonLord]

What you really need to understand is that I really don't give a fuck that you love vaccines.

You're welcome to vaccinate your child as often as you like.

It's when I start hearing calls for mandatory vaccination that my libertarian piss starts to boil.

When you've got kids, your opinions might have some weight.

But nice deflection - It's a rather nice way of proving your supposed "Research" is as full as shit as a bag of Manure.

[Katman]

When you've got kids, your opinions might have some weight.

Me not having kids has nothing to do with it.

At the end of the day, you have absolutely no right to demand that someone else must vaccinate their child against their will.

[Graystone]

How are you going with the Henry Kissinger research?

How are you going with intelligence? Seems like you two don't get along

[TheDemonLord]

They openly explain all of those possibilities in the paper.

It's left to the reader to form their own opinion.

Let's not forget about the chain of evidence showing the World Health Organisation's obsession with producing a 'vaccine' that could be used to achieve a reduction in population growth.

Because it showed yet another independent laboratory finding the presence of HCG in the supposed Tetanus vaccine - regardless of the fact that the laboratory couldn't measure it down to an international standard.

The amount of Apologia for Bad Science is hilarious - if the roles were reversed you'd be claiming all sorts of "Holes" in "The official Story"

Everything about that paper screams piss poor research to reach a conclusion.

[husaberg]

Let's not forget

You haven't produced what you claim exists....

How are you getting on with your claims below....

I'd suggest the trouble is you can't suggest a paper that provides a credible link between the two.

They've been posted previously in this thread.
Fuck off and re-read them.

Yeah Stevo that's the issue here rather than you not being able to provide a credible link that backs up your assertions of a link between autism and vaccination.
So now you claim to understand the question just where are the crediable papers providing proof of a link?
.

The credible links have been scientific studies.
Fuck off and re-read them.

So where are they, or were you just talking shit again?

Dude, it was one laboratory out of six - and it (along with the others) still found the presence of HCG.

Because it showed yet another independent laboratory finding the presence of HCG in the supposed Tetanus vaccine - regardless of the fact that the laboratory couldn't measure it down to an international standard.

in regards to your latest claims its debunked.

The WHO has investigated already and found nothing wrong. Ngare’s claims are, to put it bluntly, completely without merit. As it pointed out:

There is a situation where ant- β-HCG antibodies can be produced by the body and that can act as a contraceptive, however, this requires the administration of at-least 100 to 500 micrograms of HCG bound to tetanus vaccine (about 11,904,000 to 59,520,000 mIU/ml of the same hormone where currently less than 1 mIU-ml has been reported from the lab results.

As UNICEF also points out, there is no laboratory in Kenya capable of accurately making these sorts of measurements on non-human samples (such as vaccines):

The tests were done in hospital laboratories in Kenya. The staff in these laboratories could not however tell whether the samples were vaccines or not, as this was not declared to the testing laboratories . The laboratories tested the samples for hCG using analyzers used for testing human samples like blood and urine for pregnancy. There is no laboratory in Kenya with the capacity to test non-human samples like vaccine for hCG.

It’s also been noted that these values might have been the results of a reaction between the preservatives in a standard tetanus toxoid vaccine and a serum/urine HCG test kit. Also, the vaccine in which hCG was linked to the tetanus toxoid is 20 years out of date. Indeed, in an e-mail interview, the original scientist who developed the hCG-tetanus toxoid vaccine even said that a different carrier, LTB, has been used, to avoid the very misinformation that has been associated with the valuable tetanus vaccination. Also, as the WHO and others responding to this rumor have noted, contraceptive vaccines based on hCG don’t last very long. Antibody titers against hCG decline rapidly after around three months.
Shaw has been a controversial figure in the scientific niche of vaccine safety studies. He and colleague Tomljenovic, who is also of the Neural Dynamics Research Group in Vancouver, had published a paper in the journal Vaccine that reported side-effect concerns with certain inoculations. That paper was retracted, and then republished in a journal called Immunologic Research several months later. Another paper they and other authors published last year, which linked aluminum adjuvants in vaccines to autism in mice, was retracted from the Journal of Inorganic Biochemistry “due to evidence of incorrect data.”

[Katman]

How are you going with intelligence?

I'll give you a hand since you seem reluctant to educate yourself.

One of the major driving factors in Henry Kissinger's report on reducing population growth in lesser developed countries was the vast mineral wealth and oil reserves that many of those countries have and how if their population growth was left unchecked it could adversely affect America's ability to get their hands on that wealth.

[Katman]

It's really simple:

If your infant mortality rate is something like 50% - you have lots of children, to make sure that some of them survive to adulthood.
If your infant mortality rate is non-existent - you have fewer children, that you can invest more time and resources into.

And reducing infant mortality rates could just as easily (in fact, more likely) result in a significant increase in population growth.

[TheDemonLord]

And reducing infant mortality rates could just as easily (in fact, more likely) result in a significant increase in population growth.

If only we had multiple countries, that in the last 100 years experienced a massive drop in Infant Mortality rates.
If only we could compare the average number of Children before the drop and after.
If only we had the data that definitively shows a decrease over time

[Katman]

If only we had multiple countries, that in the last 100 years experienced a massive drop in Infant Mortality rates.
If only we could compare the average number of Children before the drop and after.
If only we had the data that definitively shows a decrease over time

You should probably look more closely at the figures from Third World countries - since those are the demographics we're talking about.

http://auth.prb.org/Publications/Dat...opulation.aspx

[TheDemonLord]

You should probably look more closely at the figures from Third World countries - since those are the demographics we're talking about.

http://auth.prb.org/Publications/Dat...opulation.aspx

You should probably stop missing the point.

[husaberg]

You should probably stop missing the point.

I think the trouble is that you are aiming to high with katspam
Because all of what you fire back at him is clearly way above his head.