Video games, speed and the clash of thinking styles

[unstuck]

contrary to popular belief/myth "freezing" them actually makes them brittle & soggy, not hard; a few of the top speedball teams refrigerate their balls to increase the brittleness without the sogginess of frozen balls as speedball's all about the paint mark.
Now loading up ball bearings... that's a different story

Thats just pure evil right there. Would the bearings from a CV joint do.

[Scuba_Steve]

Thats just pure evil right there. Would the bearings from a CV joint do.

Well my barrels are all .68 but there are .5 & .43 paintball guns too, so as long as you can match up bore size then sure; else you can always make your own, same sorta idea as spud gun, use gas to propel object.
Paintball guns are limited in their propelling abilities as they are designed with a single purpose in mind but using the same basic design, a-little DIY & alot more gas

[superjackal]

contrary to popular belief/myth "freezing" them actually makes them brittle & soggy, not hard; a few of the top speedball teams refrigerate their balls to increase the brittleness without the sogginess of frozen balls as speedball's all about the paint mark.
Now loading up ball bearings... that's a different story

Ha ha ha! You evil bastard....

[Road kill]

I can't help but think that we're always progressing as a species. What stimulated a 50s kid just doesn't cut it with modern kids as they're used to... well.. better, more interesting toys. Take a 50s kid and give him the choice of his toys or modern toys and there's no question.

Technology's not necessarily better. But it's there.

I grew up with loats of video games but was still very physically active. It comes down to the child.

Ok I was a 50's kid.

I Spent my time catching eels in the mangroves,fishing around the harbor rocks,hunting rabbits an possums all with gear I'd either made myself or adapted from stuff that adults had discarded.
Building push bikes from old shitters found at the local tip.
Mowing lawns for the money to buy better fishing gear,arguing with the bus driver about weather my dog was coming along or not,,she always did.
Then in my teens, heaps of time working on old bikes and cars that kids of today couldn't work on because most of them have wasted their time playing video games when they should of been out in the world learning self reliance.

Something I notice with young people at our Archery club is that a lot of them want to get into hunting but when you give them places to go and all the other information needed they still won't get off their arses to do a damn thing unless an adult is there to hold their hands.

When I was a kid if somebody gave me the type of info I've handed to some of these losers I made it a point of getting myself out there and the fact the bush was dark an scary never slowed me down for one second.

So yeah there's no question I wouldn't trade the toys of my youth for all the shittyo games in the world,,,and I love speed.

[avgas]

Cartoon Depicting Gamers Make No MOney

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lim_Yo-Hwan

Tip of an iceberg the size of Antarctica. Last year the gaming industry was twice the size of film.
In fact apparently more people can recognize this voice over this one. Which is a scary stat on its own.

[Mushu]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lim_Yo-Hwan

Tip of an iceberg the size of Antarctica. Last year the gaming industry was twice the size of film.
In fact apparently more people can recognize this voice over this one. Which is a scary stat on its own.

Not really surprising given the age of Space Odyssey which came out over 40 years ago, most people my age (late 20s) haven't even seen it, my nephews don't even know who John McClain is (I found out when the newest movie came out)

I'd hate to know how many hours of my life have been spent on video games but I won't ever stop playing them, probably better way of spending a shitty day than reading a book or watching the crap they put on TV. Not that I'm playing much at the moment, just waiting for GTA5 to come out and Gran Turismo 6.

[buggerit]

Not really surprising given the age of Space Odyssey which came out over 40 years ago, most people my age (late 20s) haven't even seen it, my nephews don't even know who John McClain is (I found out when the newest movie came out)

I'd hate to know how many hours of my life have been spent on video games but I won't ever stop playing them, probably better way of spending a shitty day than reading a book or watching the crap they put on TV. Not that I'm playing much at the moment, just waiting for GTA5 to come out and Gran Turismo 6.

Thats why God gave us sheds and tools

[Mushu]

Thats why God gave us sheds and tools

I don't have a shed I gotta fix my bikes in the yard.

[Hoon]

Something I notice with young people at our Archery club is that a lot of them want to get into hunting but when you give them places to go and all the other information needed they still won't get off their arses to do a damn thing unless an adult is there to hold their hands.

Interesting.

I grew up in between i.e 80's so had exposure to both sides. I was and until having kids a serious gaming nut though. I have a lot of fond childhood memories of fun and adventure but now that you mention it none of these memories involve the countless hours I spent playing video games. In fact the more I think about it I really am struggling to identify a single memorable event that did involve video games.
I seriously find it hard to justify any beneficial skills I may have learned from gaming. It didn't make me any a better motorcycle racer or soldier.

[unstuck]

Interesting.

I grew up in between i.e 80's so had exposure to both sides. I was and until having kids a serious gaming nut though. I have a lot of fond childhood memories of fun and adventure but now that you mention it none of these memories involve the countless hours I spent playing video games. In fact the more I think about it I really am struggling to identify a single memorable event that did involve video games.
I seriously find it hard to justify any beneficial skills I may have learned from gaming. It didn't make me any a better motorcycle racer or soldier.

The only games we had like that were a stupid tennis type one where a ball went from one side of the screen to the other and you had to move the little line thing up and down to hit it back. And then space invaders and defender came out, and all the local kids would be out pinching milk money to go down the takeaways to play spacies.

[mashman]

The brain is a big place. It has space for more information that it is ever used for. It has parts that are very rarely used. It makes new connections in response to stimulus. How can gaming hurt? It teaches strategy, sacrifice, cooperation, hand eye coordination blah blah blah. Use it as best you can, because it is you

[Mushu]

Interesting.

I grew up in between i.e 80's so had exposure to both sides. I was and until having kids a serious gaming nut though. I have a lot of fond childhood memories of fun and adventure but now that you mention it none of these memories involve the countless hours I spent playing video games. In fact the more I think about it I really am struggling to identify a single memorable event that did involve video games.
I seriously find it hard to justify any beneficial skills I may have learned from gaming. It didn't make me any a better motorcycle racer or soldier.

I have quite a few good memories playing video games like shitting myself playing Resident Evil or Tekken tournaments with my friends. Although I also spent a lot of time roaming the neighborhood with friends too which I also have fond memories of.

As far as learning real world skills, Full Spectrum Warrior was developed with the US military to help teach their guys urban warfare tactics, Gran Turismo is pretty good at teaching racing theory and Microsoft Flight Simulator is recognized as being legitimate training for pilots. No substitute for real world experience but you can learn a fair bit from the right games. These days there are educational games too, too late for me to have gotten any benefit from them so I can't tell whether they're effective or not.

[unstuck]

My middle son is the one who loved them most, and he reckons they helped him when he joined the navy. I have no idea how, but he says they did so I accept that.

[Hoon]

As far as learning real world skills, Full Spectrum Warrior was developed with the US military to help teach their guys urban warfare tactics, Gran Turismo is pretty good......

Yes thats what the gaming marketing types would have you believe but the reality is that those soldiers/pilots/racers that do play these games are no better off than those that don't. They might know a little more on Day zero but this advantage is quickly lost. As a gamer with no experience of the real life role you'd probably disagree but as a gamer, racer and soldier I can clearly state that I have seen no evidence that those that do excel in these professions have any strong links to gaming, nor do they attribute any of their success to prior gaming experience.

Don't get me wrong - I love gaming but believing that it provides any relevant real world skills is pure fantasy. One exception is MS Flight Sim - like all others that have played it I reckon I could land a Passenger jet if needed but then again a trained pilot would probably disagree with me as well.

And then space invaders and defender came out, and all the local kids would be out pinching milk money to go down the takeaways to play spacies.

Yep clocked Spacies and then Defender when I was 11 - that took over 2 hours. I have more bad memories than fond - hidings from spending the change and also getting into fights over credits. Had a home computer since the mid 80's and the whole console progression from sega master system to xbox360 not to mention the pc online gaming thing since '96. Now my gaming rig sits neglected buried at the back of baby#2's room

[mashman]

I have quite a few good memories playing video games like shitting myself playing Resident Evil or Tekken tournaments with my friends. Although I also spent a lot of time roaming the neighborhood with friends too which I also have fond memories of.

As far as learning real world skills, Full Spectrum Warrior was developed with the US military to help teach their guys urban warfare tactics, Gran Turismo is pretty good at teaching racing theory and Microsoft Flight Simulator is recognized as being legitimate training for pilots. No substitute for real world experience but you can learn a fair bit from the right games. These days there are educational games too, too late for me to have gotten any benefit from them so I can't tell whether they're effective or not.

It's perfect training if you wanna fly drones and blow people to pieces for a living.