Bandit 1200 - Just a few mods

[roogazza]

You're probably thinking of the 2000 onward bandits, pre 2000 uses a different carb setup.

The dynojet Stage 3 uses 155 mains, but yes you must keep an eye on the emulsion tubes going oval.
You can go for bigger cams but then you have to change things like keepers and know what you're doing as far as V to p clearance when combined with compression.
The Gsxr cams give good drive for street use and are plenty really.My baby was often underestimated esspecially when the weight came off it.

PS don't forget you don't even need an ign advancer, just slot the backing plate ! Ten minutes with a small round file, done .
Of course if you are going to give it compression you may want to forget about advancing the ign ???

[T.W.R]

This is from a group that went all out in the search of what could be got.

107.5 main jets (up from the 102.5 stock)

40.0 pilot jets (up from the 37.5 stock)

Suzuki race kit needles (same as fitted to GSX-R750RR) set at 2nd richest clip (very long needle)

Yoshimura ignition advancer (running 4deg advance)

GSX-R1100 cams

stock spec airbox with a K&N filter (50mm inlet rather than the 65mm enlargement trick)

Skorpion mid pipe & can

Result measured on a dynajet 150 dynometer

29hp extra over stock, more power from 4300rpm & still pulling like a train at redline.

Enough to pull over 260km/h down eastern creek main chute



These guys used all options available at the time including all the fancy name brand items and the result of this blend was the best of the lot; a 11hp increase over the wank factor big label items.

You're probably thinking of the 2000 onward bandits, pre 2000 uses a different carb setup.

All of the above was essentially plug and play items on a 1997 Bandit in a series of 4 articles called OPERATION BANDIT including suspension etc. They got to the point were they admitted pushing the bike beyond it's intended design with the front end being totally overwhelmed and being able to flex the steering head of the frame

[Vinz0r]

Somewhere I have the holeshot jet kit instructions if you dont have them.

Would be pretty keen to take a look at these instructions as I think the stage 1 kit they provide is veeeery similar interms of jets to what I am running.

[Vinz0r]

All of the above was essentially plug and play items on a 1997 Bandit in a series of 4 articles called OPERATION BANDIT including suspension etc. They got to the point were they admitted pushing the bike beyond it's intended design with the front end being totally overwhelmed and being able to flex the steering head of the frame

Pretty cool what they were able to achieve, when cash ain't an issue the sky's the limit huh?
One thing I have noticed suspension wise is that the front fork springs need replacing, or maybe pop some thicker oil in there; putting the GSXR shock in the rear has really just highlighted the sponginess of the front.

[nzspokes]

Would be pretty keen to take a look at these instructions as I think the stage 1 kit they provide is veeeery similar interms of jets to what I am running.

I presume you have been here? http://www.holeshot.com/

For the forks I got some 1.0 springs off him and new fork oil. Huge improvement.

Remembered that the instructions I have are for the gen 2 but if you want them pm me your email and I will fire them through.

[T.W.R]

Pretty cool what they were able to achieve, when cash ain't an issue the sky's the limit huh?

That was then, this is now... that was a project in what could be done and to show people what the various options would achieve, the list shows the best results of what blends they put together....and be assured they ditched plenty of the bling bling parts because apart from denting the pocket they proved to do sweet F/A

The big name shit only achieved 116hp and they even dumped Ohlins because as they said in the real world the items they used offered just as much dialability and suitability for the bike.

and you've been listening to muppets bleating about yoshi cams and other big name goodies just think in today's world 4 needles that were $14 a piece, 4 jets probably the same sort of cost, 2nd hand GSX-R1100L cams for a few hundred, and a ignition advancer for roughly a hundy and the cans off Mike you're pretty much there for what the cost of less than one Yoshi cam and a bit of elbow grease and you'd be laughing.

Remember it isn't how deep your pockets are that makes you a motorcyclist, it's what you can do with what you've got

[98tls]

Hey Vin i got caught up doing shite today so never got a chance to measure the TL mid pipe,will do it tommorow and let you know.

[Vinz0r]

Remembered that the instructions I have are for the gen 2 but if you want them pm me your email and I will fire them through.

Ah right, nah it's alright, then Gen 1s and 2s are a bit too different. Thanks for the offer though.

I managed to find a copy of the Holeshot settings online and what I am currently running is pretty much exactly the same, so that's good!

[Vinz0r]

Hey Vin i got caught up doing shite today so never got a chance to measure the TL mid pipe,will do it tommorow and let you know.

Awesome cheers

I'm hoping it's going to be a slightly smaller outside diameter so it'll slip nicely into the Bandit midpipe.

[Drew]

Awesome cheers

I'm hoping it's going to be a slightly smaller outside diameter so it'll slip nicely into the Bandit midpipe.

That's a lessd than ideal setup.

Exhausts should always sleeve small to bigger, with teh direction of the gas flow. If there's a lip the gas flow disruption means it can turn into a bad choke point. Pictur water in a narrowed part of a river. The water hitting the sides stops almost, making the bottle kneck tighter still.

[AllanB]

If they are slightly undersize a muffler shop will be able to carefully enlarge them to slip over the stock pipe.

[fridayflash]

Fuck changing cams and pissing around. Pipe, jets, filter, go do wheelies!

enjoying this thread, and drew just summed it up...im lookin for an early nakkid bandit now!
god i miss owning an air/oil cooled suzuki four, best inline 4 ever imo
...now which to sell, dr650 or gs1100g, fucken cheap!

[Vinz0r]

Exhaust from 98tls arrived today, looks bloody awesome on the bike. The flat black matches up nicely with the plasti-dipped parts.

I also had a look through the stock exhaust as I've noticed it has a bit of a rattle, it looks like a previous owner decided to try and open up some airflow through it! (They have an offset three chamber system to restrict airflow). Bit of a hatchet job, the thing's a shambles.

Now I just have to come up with a solution to attach the exhaust to the stock mid-pipe, the diameter of the muffler hole is smaller than the diameter of the link pipe, so I can't just chop the flange off the link pipe and slip it on.

Anyone have any bright ideas as to what would be the best way to attach it? I had a look at the adapter AllanB recommended but it's >$60 when shipping is added! Hoping to find a slightly cheaper solution haha.

I'm thinking that I might just chop off the three hole flange and have a 4 hole flange welded on instead.
This'd probably be the cheapest option, how much do ya reckon a bit of welding like that would cost me? I'm in Hamilton, can anyone recommend a welder?





Busted internals of the stock exhaust:

[98tls]

Damn that does look good eh,really suits the bike imho.Diameter of the S mid is 45mm with around 1.2mm wall if thats any help.Cant imagine the welding would cost much though in saying that im no welder,might be a bit more to it.

[98tls]

That's a lessd than ideal setup.

Exhausts should always sleeve small to bigger, with teh direction of the gas flow. If there's a lip the gas flow disruption means it can turn into a bad choke point. Pictur water in a narrowed part of a river. The water hitting the sides stops almost, making the bottle kneck tighter still.

Hey Drew is his idea of putting a 4 bolt flange on his oem pipe feasible?Other option is to cut a length of my old S (from the flange forward) and join it to his mid...