

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
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there must be a problem there. if its seals it should work great. If you helmet fits well, doesnt have a leaky visor or vent seals, and fits snugly around the neck will always give you fogging problems unless you have a pinlock installed - hence top manufacturers bundle in a pinlock insert in the box.
Is it a genuine pinlock? have you had it in and out a few times already? when adjusting the pin cams you want to back them off slightly from supertight too, otherwise you end up creating gaps.
Is your visor adjusted correctly?
Those new Teflon visors seem to work well by all accounts. Bugs don't even stick so rain has not a show.


Brand new (2 weeks) Shoei Qwest. Pinlock came with the helmet (yes, it's genuine). I've had the pinlock out only twice since I first put it in. Now that I've got it tight it seems to not be fogging on the inside i.e. I don't think there are gaps. The problem seems to be condensation on the outside (inside the helmet). After I got home today I could wipe it off and all good. Seems to defeat it's purpose. Like Juniper said I may try taking the chin wind stopper out.
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)
"Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous
"Live to Ride, Ride to Live"
I also have one on my helmet, makes no odds to me, it's just a part of the helmet.
I think the reason Anne doesn't use the chin thing is because of that closed in feeling..
Hers works fine without it, my works fine with it, your works fine with both, what does tell you?
My helmet came with pinlock, installed it day 1 and haven't had it fog up ever. I tested it very thoroughly. I put my helmet over a hot bowl of soup, I put the helmet on, blocked the gap to my chin and went for a run and it still didn't fog up.
Have you made sure you installed it the right way around? Should be: visor, then a gap sealed by the insert, then the inner screen. From memory this had a film on it that you have to take off once it's installed.
If you've tightened the pins too tight that would push the seals up in areas and let air in. It mightn't fog up the inside, but it's the temperature differences that creates the condensation.
Get an open face helmet, problem solved.![]()
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