Page 7 of 7 FirstFirst ... 567
Results 91 to 100 of 100

Thread: Lane splitting accident

  1. #91
    Join Date
    3rd November 2008 - 21:46
    Bike
    Honda Hornet 250
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    70

    eek This looks like my last accident

    One difference, I was going down the center not on the left. The outcome for me was i was in the wrong, travelling in a unavailable lane!! Quite interested to see what else happens with this because this seems to be upto the officer on the scene's discretion. Which is bollox.

  2. #92
    Ratez Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Eng_dave View Post
    One difference, I was going down the center not on the left. The outcome for me was i was in the wrong, travelling in a unavailable lane!! Quite interested to see what else happens with this because this seems to be upto the officer on the scene's discretion. Which is bollox.
    Hi there,

    Received a call 2 nights ago, police comes back and says we are both at fault and are both only receiving warnings. It really shows how incompetent the police is when they can reach to 3 different conclusions. First decision by the police, second one by a guru and third one by a senior police officer. It is a good outcome for both of us though.

  3. #93
    Join Date
    4th October 2008 - 16:35
    Bike
    R100GSPD
    Location
    Wellington
    Posts
    10,205
    Quote Originally Posted by Ratez View Post
    Hi there,

    Received a call 2 nights ago, police comes back and says we are both at fault and are both only receiving warnings. It really shows how incompetent the police is when they can reach to 3 different conclusions. First decision by the police, second one by a guru and third one by a senior police officer. It is a good outcome for both of us though.
    incompetent?
    it sounds like a situation that has fault on both sides and the police arent supposed to be judge jury and executioner ,that is supposed to be the courts role.
    Lessons to be learnt on both sides.Just because someone else stops to let you go through doesnt mean the way is clear,and the motorcyclist was in the wrong if the traffic was not stationary(you cant pass of the left unless you are in a seperate lane OR the traffic is stopped.Also it sounds like he was in the same mind set as you,in that the traffic obscured his view of you.
    Good on you for venturing onto a motorcyclist forum tho to put your case

  4. #94
    Join Date
    19th November 2007 - 13:39
    Bike
    1994 Triumph Trophy 1200
    Location
    All over NZ
    Posts
    2,369
    Quote Originally Posted by Ratez View Post
    Hi there,

    It really shows how incompetent the police is when they can reach to 3 different conclusions. First decision by the police, second one by a guru and third one by a senior police officer. It is a good outcome for both of us though.
    Incompetent - Give us the number of the coppa and I will give him a call and let him know you want justice done to one of you!!

    I think its a bloody good decision and shows common sense not imcompetence!!


    Quote Jan 2020 Posted by Katman

    Life would be so much easier if you addressed questions with a simple answer.

  5. #95
    Ratez Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by BMWST? View Post
    incompetent?
    it sounds like a situation that has fault on both sides and the police arent supposed to be judge jury and executioner ,that is supposed to be the courts role.
    Lessons to be learnt on both sides.Just because someone else stops to let you go through doesnt mean the way is clear,and the motorcyclist was in the wrong if the traffic was not stationary(you cant pass of the left unless you are in a seperate lane OR the traffic is stopped.Also it sounds like he was in the same mind set as you,in that the traffic obscured his view of you.
    Good on you for venturing onto a motorcyclist forum tho to put your case
    The police sent me a fine because he believed I was fully at fault. Then sent me a letter saying I am not at fault and the biker is at fault - I can discard the fine. Then phone me at night 2 nights ago to say both people are at fault.

    I am saying the police is incompetent not because of the verdict but how many twist and turns before a proper verdict. They should be clear before sending out letters saying who is at fault. After the first mistake, I would think due care should be taken before committing the second mistake. Obviously not if letters get sent out so easily. I don't think our case was major enough to have the fault dictated by court.

  6. #96
    Ratez Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Murray View Post
    Incompetent - Give us the number of the coppa and I will give him a call and let him know you want justice done to one of you!!

    I think its a bloody good decision and shows common sense not imcompetence!!
    I love the twisting of my intentions.

    If you don't think reaching to three different conclusions after sending legal documents on the first two decisions stinks of incompetence, then sure. But don't twist my words to mean a different meaning.

    I even clarified this point by saying it is a good outcome for both of us - acceptance of the outcome.

  7. #97
    Join Date
    4th October 2008 - 16:35
    Bike
    R100GSPD
    Location
    Wellington
    Posts
    10,205
    Quote Originally Posted by Ratez View Post
    The police sent me a fine because he believed I was fully at fault. Then sent me a letter saying I am not at fault and the biker is at fault - I can discard the fine. Then phone me at night 2 nights ago to say both people are at fault.

    I am saying the police is incompetent not because of the verdict but how many twist and turns before a proper verdict. They should be clear before sending out letters saying who is at fault. After the first mistake, I would think due care should be taken before committing the second mistake. Obviously not if letters get sent out so easily. I don't think our case was major enough to have the fault dictated by court.

    the police dont decide if you are guilty,a court does.If the police send you a letter saying they are fining you you dont have to agree,you can go to court to put your argument to a judge.That has its risks of course,if the judge decides you are guilty of what the police say you end up paying the fine plus some court costs

  8. #98
    Ratez Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by BMWST? View Post
    the police dont decide if you are guilty,a court does.If the police send you a letter saying they are fining you you dont have to agree,you can go to court to put your argument to a judge.That has its risks of course,if the judge decides you are guilty of what the police say you end up paying the fine plus some court costs
    The first letter was his decision. The second letter was after he consulted a guru. And the third letter was after a senior officer confronted him.

    What I am saying is, no court is involved in all these. Yes the police doesn't decide if I am at fault and I can bring it to court, but that is a different case. No one is bringing it to court.

  9. #99
    Join Date
    25th April 2009 - 17:38
    Bike
    RC36, RC31, KR-E, CR125
    Location
    Manawatu
    Posts
    7,364
    Quote Originally Posted by Ratez View Post
    I love the twisting of my intentions.

    If you don't think reaching to three different conclusions after sending legal documents on the first two decisions stinks of incompetence, then sure. But don't twist my words to mean a different meaning.

    I even clarified this point by saying it is a good outcome for both of us - acceptance of the outcome.
    I get what you mean, it shouldn't be too much to ask that cops know the road rules, or at least know when they don't and hold off passing judgment.
    "A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal

  10. #100
    Ratez Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    I get what you mean, it shouldn't be too much to ask that cops know the road rules, or at least know when they don't and hold off passing judgment.
    Thanks for that bogan. That is exactly my point. These guys work to uphold the law and fine people for not knowing road codes. I hope it is now finally over .

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •