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    The second smallest Superbee battery, starts the ZX12 after two or three attempts to get the juice levels up. Two blades might do the trick, but three is what I think you said was what was specced. Mind, it doesn't have any lights or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    The second smallest Superbee battery, starts the ZX12 after two or three attempts to get the juice levels up. Two blades might do the trick, but three is what I think you said was what was specced. Mind, it doesn't have any lights or anything.
    Yes we recommend three for a ZX12 road bike. for a ZX12 track bike you might get away with 2 PowerBlades. If that wasn't enough you can always add a third one at a later date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FastBikeGear View Post
    Here is a pic of my hand and one of ultrabatt's new 3rd generation modular Lithium starter batteries. This pic gives you an idea of just how tiny these starter batteries are!
    Are they $100 yet?
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    Sorry we just got caught out with demand, and our first shipment of the new modular Ultrabatt batteries and the entire order sold out before they had even arrived. One of our dealers placed a fairly large order at late notice which was fantastic, but didn't help with our stock planning.

    Anyway we just had another large shipment arrive today so we can now supply ex-stock.

    Please don't try and order thru KiwiBiker. Pleaes order via our web site or by emailing Liam or Julie.

    Julie@FastBikeGear.co.nz
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    For information and product specifications for these new modular batteries please click here.

    To order from web site go here.
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    Good little vid of testing an Ultrabatt...

    http://youtu.be/Rus78guH9LU
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    Good little vid of testing an Ultrabatt...

    http://youtu.be/Rus78guH9LU

    Interesting because I kept on mucking up my verbiage and this was the third test run in a row on this battery without recharging it. Will do another test on fresh charged battery and post it later. But for the time being it is what it is!

    (Did anyone notice the rather embarrassing profanity that slipped in....I din't notice at the time but my wife nearly pissed her self when she watched it)
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    I noticed the hat - I need a new one for summer. Add them to the FBG website......

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    I noticed the hat - I need a new one for summer. Add them to the FBG website......
    Allan I am sorry that the hats as modeled in the Ultrabatt Lithium battery test (http://youtu.be/Rus78guH9LU) do confer a race winning advantage on the wearer (fake straw is lighter than fiberglass helmets) and as such are only available to FastBikeGear sponsored riders.
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    Nice empirical test vid there Liam. Will the be a sequel to test a few failure modes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Nice empirical test vid there Liam. Will the be a sequel to test a few failure modes?

    Yes.

    We had a customer test the replaceable fuse feature last week. He allowed two batteries to short together. Happy to save fuse protection worked.

    This is also a good time to remind that Lithium batteries are not universally the best solution for everyone in every situation which is why we are keen to consult with all customers on their requirements. Despite having our top sales week the week before last for Lithium batteries we still make good profit selling our CTEK lead acid smart chargers. I had a guy drop by today that I advised not to buy a lithium battery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FastBikeGear View Post
    Yes.

    We had a customer test the replaceable fuse feature last week. He allowed two batteries to short together. Happy to save fuse protection worked.

    This is also a good time to remind that Lithium batteries are not universally the best solution for everyone in every situation which is why we are keen to consult with all customers on their requirements. Despite having our top sales week the week before last for Lithium batteries we still make good profit selling our CTEK lead acid smart chargers. I had a guy drop by today that I advised not to buy a lithium battery.
    Good on ya! Our bikes have Yuasa batteries in them, and we have a C-TEK optimiser that gets swapped between bikes evey few weeks when we are not using them. Works well!
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    Thought people might be interested in a photo of the inside of a lithium battery. Photo shown is of one of the earlier 2nd generation Ultrabatt 600 batteries.

    This battery was taken out of it's case to replace the blown short circuit safety fuse. With the newer 3rd gen Ultrabatt batteries the short circuit safety fuse is excessible for replacement via a small removable cover. The fuse is not shown in the photo below as is sits between the teminal and one of the heavy duty cables attached to the top of the battery pack.

    Also not shown in this photo is the protection wrap that goes around the battery pack before it is inserted in the case. (I removed this before taking the photo so that you could see the cells).

    The cells in this battery are interconnected by laser welded thin stainless steel plates and the BMS (Battery charge Management System) cicuit board is clearly visible in the photo. There are twelve A123 Cylindrical cells in this battery. These are an earlier generation cell to the ones used in the current generation Ultrabatt PowerBlades but they have proven to be very powerful and robust cells - we have several riders in New Zealand running in the top classes still using the older 2nd gen batteries, simply because they have had them for a couple of years and they are working well and see no reason to upgrade to the newer third generation ultrabatt PowerBlades).

    As you can see there are no liquids in this battery (other than the paste contained within each cell)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FastBikeGear View Post
    These are an earlier generation cell to the ones used in the current generation Ultrabatt PowerBlades but they have proven to be very powerful and robust cells
    Do the blades use the nanoPhosphate tech? (can't remember if I've asked this already)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    Do the blades use the nanoPhosphate tech? (can't remember if I've asked this already)
    Hi guys this is a correction to the answer I gave to the question above that Bogan asked earlier.

    I can't identify the cells technology being used in the current 3rd Gen Ultrabatt batteries (other than to say it is a LiFePO4 chemistry) .....but I can confirm that the 2nd generation Ultrabatts did use nanoPhosphate tech.

    Interested people can find more info on LiFePO4 nanoPhosphate batteries here.

    (Interestingly I priced up some nanoPhosphatte cells for my experimental battery and the price of them was over twice that of a comparable non nanoPhosphate cell....these things are not a lot more expensive than regular LiFePO4 cells!)

    There are lots of new and very exciting battery constructions and chemistries on the near term horizon. Some of these are very much in the prototype and early development phase. Various flavours of grapene, sodium, etc. Also some of the hybrid super capacitor stuff is starting to look pretty interesting.

    Ultrabatt has been testing a short list of candidates for their next gen batteries for a while now. I believe the next (4th Gen Batteries) will continue to use their patented modular PowerBlade physical architecture (because it has proved to be such a smart design) but the internals will be different (can't say anymore for usual two reasons). However expect to hear more of an evolutionary story rather than a revolutionary one when we are able to announce more details later this year.
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    Deleted: Sorry I double posted.
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