Seen National's Tax Policy!?

**bane** · 22nd August 2005, 17:15

well step in the right direction anyways.
Be nice to be able to decide what to do with my money, rather than govt telling me what "my" priorities are!

Actually we can probably thank Labour for the way National has set up this policy - with lower to middle income people getting reasonable benefit... Im sure Dr Brash wanted to introduce a flat tax rate to finish what Roger Douglas started.

**Grizz** · 22nd August 2005, 17:26

Never thought I would ever vote for the Nat's either but I agree with LiasTZ Labour has to go IMO.

I am sick of this mollycuddling PC government, and while the Nats may not be any better (proof has to be in the eating) I want to give them the opportunity. If they reneg on their promises or fail to deliver we probably will pack up and head off to Oz (we have been back two years after spending 5 years over in Brisvegas).

Our family is definetly better off with the tax cuts from National.

Here is the link to the tax calculator.

http://www.taxcuts.co.nz/

**Dafe** · 22nd August 2005, 17:35

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

I won't be voting Labour because they've maintained monetarist policy while fiddling around the edges with social experiments.
And I won't be voting National because I don't like ACT.
Winnie baby are you there?

If you like Winnie you should vote National over Labour. Because Winnie hates Helen Clarks guts and winnie is a true National supportive man through and through.

Don't forget, Winnie and John Banks were both understudies to Robert Muldoon and his National government.

I just wish John Banks was running for prime minister. Because he would clean up this country like no other man or woman could. Although, winnie wouldn't be far behind.

**bane** · 22nd August 2005, 17:55

Originally Posted by Dafe

I just wish John Banks was running for prime minister.

Oh god! please save us from Bank-isms such as "a kiwi battler from struggle street"....

**Coyote** · 22nd August 2005, 18:14

Don't be fooled by National.

Yay, less Taxes! Less money for the government to put into running the country! And all your money you'll be saving from the tax decrease will be going into the private sector anyway, such as power and hopefully healthcare and education if National finally sell them off to the Richie Richs! Yay!

Anyone watch Don Brash this morning on Breakfast? Notice he only said he'll be helping "hard working New Zealanders" (wish I counted how many times he said that). Sure, might get those slackarses off the dole and working for once in their lives, but those who can't work will have to starve I'm afraid, the government won't be paying for your bread, butter and gruel.

And also, who read that article on Finland in the Dominion Post this morning? High taxes is a good thing as it benefits the country

**TwoSeven** · 22nd August 2005, 18:44

Well under nat I get an extra $6-8/wk as a student (that makes a big diff as well). And when I return to work I get an extra $2.5k/year.

One important thing is that I work out what I ask for wages based on what I want in the hand after tax. So for me I can ask for less pay, which helps the company I work for - also that $2.5 for the employer works out at about an $5k savings in compliance costs - might not sound like much, but if you have 40 employees it does.

I havnt factored in having two jobs tho. I like the 19% witholding tax

So I dont care if they dont fix the roads. The extra $2.5k pays for my bike being fixed

**MacD** · 22nd August 2005, 20:44

Originally Posted by TwoSeven

I havnt factored in having two jobs tho. I like the 19% witholding tax

You won't like it at the end of the year when you realise that your second job has put your overall earnings into a higher tax bracket and you have a lump sum tax demand to pay.

And while we're on the matter, why do people forget that the incremental tax rates only apply on the income you earn over a certain threshold? If your total income puts you into say the 33c/$ rate, you are still only paying 19.5c/$ on the first $38K. People always talk about it as though they are paying the 33c/$ on the whole lot?

**Qkchk:Me** · 22nd August 2005, 20:47

Originally Posted by LiasTZ

I was planning to vote National before this, just an extra incentive really. I dont agree with all of Nationals policies by any means, but Labour has got to go.

Ditto. They may not be the best but they are all we really got..... the other parties are too small to make your vote count.

**MadDuck** · 22nd August 2005, 20:56

Ok I expect to get an arse kick for this one...

But why should my tax money go to support people who choose to have children? You choose to have a family you should be able to pay for it. I dont object to paying taxes but......

I would rather see tax funds go to the students and health for elderly. Somone I know (works and pays tax) just had a mild heart attack and without medical cover has to wait 9 months for full tests or find $3,000.. Anyone see anything wrong with that picture?

**bane** · 22nd August 2005, 21:06

Originally Posted by alarumba

who read that article on Finland in the Dominion Post this morning? High taxes is a good thing as it benefits the country

hmmn... a country that has over double the unemployment rate of our own. Obviously more incentive to enjoy the welfare system, than work... why bother earning if the bulk heads back to the state for "redirection".

**Grumpy** · 22nd August 2005, 21:13

Originally Posted by TonyB

My biggest gripe with the money that Labour have "found" is that they clearly knew they had it all along. They've "discovered" it so they can use it as an election bribe.

Isn't that what National are trying to do with their promise of tax cuts? I'm told that I will eventually get around $30 more in my pocket a week with these tax cuts ( before tax ) but I find myself asking is Don Brash the sort of person that I want running the country? Is that $30 a week worth it? Nothing that he has done or said to this point fills me with any confidence.

**TwoSeven** · 22nd August 2005, 21:49

So you are saying you dont trust the person that ran the RB for so many years ?

Who would you trust then

**cowpoos** · 22nd August 2005, 22:15

Originally Posted by Flyingpony

Voted Green's when they first came out because of their anti-GE stance. So much good they were for standing up. We've still got GE food products on our shelves and still hear in the news about GE contamination of seeds.

Get the fuck over it....GE is harmless....and for christ sake the technology of GE and stem cell transplants can save millions of people suffering needless illnesses...dieseases...

Do you know anyone thats got or died of cancer????

GREENIES REALLY MAKE ME ANGRY...THEY ARE SO STUPID...THEY PUSH THEIR OPINIONS UPON PEOPLE BY SCARMONGERING AND THEY ARE RETARDS BECAUSE THEY LACK ANYTHING THAT RESEMBLES COMONSENCE AND HAVE NO IDEA OF CONSEQUENCE....AND I CAN"T SPEEL AND I DON"T CARE....GRRR....I NEED TO HURT A TREE...BRB

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AHH....thats better.

Oh and MMP is stupid because the idea of a democracy is that the majority wins...so how is it that the greenies or nz first...and the other party the dunnies or something...can be a part of the in power government...they are bloody MINORITIES....THAT MEANS HARDLY ANYONE WANTED THEM THEIR...BUT THE ARE...I MEAN...LIKE....WHAT THE F__K !!!!!

BRB
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can someone reason with that and understand why it can happen???

Any way thats enuff for now...oh and IF YOU VOTE LABOUR I'LL KICK THE LIVING SH_T OUT OF YOUR TREES...GOT IT...