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    Quote Originally Posted by TLDV8 View Post
    This particular ball bearing has a roll pin in the side of it,similar to what might be found in some two stokes to stop it rotating.
    That is the added expense but yes could have used a off the shelf (no pin) bearing.
    We did that for some crank bearings for a GT550 Suzuki a decade or two ago but we paid for a spanky drill bit to drill and fit the pin
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    Quote Originally Posted by TLDV8 View Post
    This particular ball bearing has a roll pin in the side of it,similar to what might be found in some two stokes to stop it rotating.
    That is the added expense but yes could have used a off the shelf (no pin) bearing.
    Maybe RT could have got it for me trade cost 40% off.
    To late I payed the $94 local price so the dealer can eat steak.

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    I see you have a Buell,I priced a new Lightning in 2008,AU$19500 on the road in Darwin,looking on Trade Me showed the same bike on the road in New Zealand was some AU$3000 less,whats a little mark up,you have to eat.
    Clearly you should become a motorcycle dealer, you would make millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLDV8 View Post
    This particular ball bearing has a roll pin in the side of it,similar to what might be found in some two stokes to stop it rotating.
    I did say most bearings. In my experience probably 90% of bearings in your average bike can be got from a bearing supplier for less than half of the price of the OE supplied one.

    Quote Originally Posted by TLDV8 View Post
    I see you have a Buell,I priced a new Lightning in 2008,AU$19500 on the road in Darwin,looking on Trade Me showed the same bike on the road in New Zealand was some AU$3000 less,whats a little mark up,you have to eat.
    Interesting. Wonder hoe much of the difference was tax/compliance and how much was simply pulled out of the distributors hat. From a marketing point I actually think they were underpriced, they were never going to be mainstream, I'd have thought they would have been better making that an exclusive feature and charging accordingly. Instead they priced them actually well under the competition, and the market perception sorta equates that to lower quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Taylor View Post
    Clearly you should become a motorcycle dealer, you would make millions.
    I had no problem with profits in business through the 80's share market crash (engineering) with the usual ethic based on performance,met deadlines and a fair deal to the customers.
    Not one complaint,not one job late with good returns.

    I apply that same work ethic here in Australia (oil and gas) that in turn allows me to spend an average of over AU$20000 pa on motorcycle related expenditure.
    Over AU$100000 over the last five years alone with perhaps 20% of that spent onshore.
    When local services can match those of oversea's venders maybe they will get more of my hard earned money,attitude being a key ingredient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLDV8 View Post
    I had no problem with profits in business through the 80's share market crash (engineering) with the usual ethic based on performance,met deadlines and a fair deal to the customers.
    Not one complaint,not one job late with good returns.

    I apply that same work ethic here in Australia (oil and gas) that in turn allows me to spend an average of over AU$20000 pa on motorcycle related expenditure.
    Over AU$100000 over the last five years alone with perhaps 20% of that spent onshore.
    When local services can match those of oversea's venders maybe they will get more of my hard earned money,attitude being a key ingredient.
    Agreed. I spend most of my money here and only get hard to get or expensive items imported that make me a worth while saving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    I did say most bearings. In my experience probably 90% of bearings in your average bike can be got from a bearing supplier for less than half of the price of the OE supplied one.



    Interesting. Wonder hoe much of the difference was tax/compliance and how much was simply pulled out of the distributors hat. From a marketing point I actually think they were underpriced, they were never going to be mainstream, I'd have thought they would have been better making that an exclusive feature and charging accordingly. Instead they priced them actually well under the competition, and the market perception sorta equates that to lower quality.
    Agreed as far as bearings.
    I think ADR adds a lot to the price of bikes here,new Norton 961 US$20000,over $30000 here when they arrive.
    Harley Davidson Road King Classic $310000 here under 20k in the USA and so on in 2012.
    It can not be population sales percentage because even my DR650 was the equivalent of NZ$2000 more here new than in NZ at the time (2008)
    When the exchange rate went over equal in the AU favour the RRP remained the same.
    It is the same with helmets,the AS sticker adds some $300 to every Arai helmet regardless of the exchange rate (over the last five years)

    It was little different with Suzuki parts,the cost of a TL1000 fairing (bare,one side,over $500) in NZ changed by some NZ$20 when the US/NZ exchange rate varied from 41 cents on the dollar to over 70 cents (03 to 07)
    The retailers are never going to say 'we make hay while the sun shines are they.
    Good rate more profit that in turn leads to selective shopping by the perspective customer,its not rocket science.

    I think people are forgetting when both New Zealand and Australia had a lot of restrictions that protected the importers and distributors,a free market and the internet (communication) changed that.

    It a nice day on the central coast so out to finish the Hypermotard for its new blue slip tomorrow,oddly I lost (in the shed) one of the flanged head 10 mm foot peg retaining bolts and got another at Frasers on Friday,cost $2 something,US cost (Pandora Ducati) a little over $2,maybe not all retailers are the same.
    I will take all future sales to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLDV8 View Post
    Agreed as far as bearings.
    I think ADR adds a lot to the price of bikes here,new Norton 961 US$20000,over $30000 here when they arrive.
    Harley Davidson Road King Classic $310000 here under 20k in the USA and so on in 2012.
    It can not be population sales percentage because even my DR650 was the equivalent of NZ$2000 more here new than in NZ at the time (2008)
    When the exchange rate went over equal in the AU favour the RRP remained the same.
    It is the same with helmets,the AS sticker adds some $300 to every Arai helmet regardless of the exchange rate (over the last five years)

    It was little different with Suzuki parts,the cost of a TL1000 fairing (bare,one side,over $500) in NZ changed by some NZ$20 when the US/NZ exchange rate varied from 41 cents on the dollar to over 70 cents (03 to 07)
    The retailers are never going to say 'we make hay while the sun shines are they.
    Good rate more profit that in turn leads to selective shopping by the perspective customer,its not rocket science.

    I think people are forgetting when both New Zealand and Australia had a lot of restrictions that protected the importers and distributors,a free market and the internet (communication) changed that.

    It a nice day on the central coast so out to finish the Hypermotard for its new blue slip tomorrow,oddly I lost (in the shed) one of the flanged head 10 mm foot peg retaining bolts and got another at Frasers on Friday,cost $2 something,US cost (Pandora Ducati) a little over $2,maybe not all retailers are the same.
    I will take all future sales to them.

    Enjoy you Sunday NZer's
    My point remains, become a motorcycle dealer and show us all how its done! If matching prices to fierce overseas competitors who enjoy massive purchase discounts were simple then it would all be in place.

    I wonder aloud what border charges and taxes are in place if you export to North Mexico?

    And yes, not all retailers and distributors are the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    And when an overseas purchase goes belly up where does the purchaser usually head...off to the local distributor to try and remedy the screw-up
    Really? I've not heard of that before. No doubt it does happen but never in my experience or my friends experience of importing goods would we consider that ok. Heck I told the Arai agent down here not to give my lid a free service because I bought it overseas. They still insisted. Bought some stuff from them that day too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    Really? I've not heard of that before. No doubt it does happen but never in my experience or my friends experience of importing goods would we consider that ok. Heck I told the Arai agent down here not to give my lid a free service because I bought it overseas. They still insisted. Bought some stuff from them that day too.
    We in fact get people coming to us quite frequently that have bought suspension offshore. They very soon learn that the purchase price was not that different but if they have to respring and revalve it costs them at the going rate, so in fact it has cost them more! But we do end up with new customers from this, we don't ''penalise '' them for not purchasing locally.

    A few years back we sent a custom built shock to TLDV8, it all turned pear shaped because there was a stuff up with the postage. BUT also of all the shocks that we sent out that year it just had to be ( ! ) the only one that leaked gas to one of the most ''challenging'' / remote delivery addresses. We got the Aussie distributor to sort it at a cost that we paid for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    Really? I've not heard of that before. No doubt it does happen but never in my experience or my friends experience of importing goods would we consider that ok. Heck I told the Arai agent down here not to give my lid a free service because I bought it overseas. They still insisted. Bought some stuff from them that day too.
    Does happen seen it 1st hand with different items people had brought from off shore, they'd wonder in to the shop to see if we could help rectify a problem with what they'd got...usually it'd be a screw-up on their own behalf mainly from wrong model identification, they'd have a piece for their bike that was no good to them and they'd still have to purchase the right piece through the proper channels.
    Others would come into the shop with apparel they'd brought from off shore that would be the wrong size to see if we'd trade on something we had in store or try and sell on their behalf

    Even the ex put me in a position with a visor for her shoei...helmet had been brought on an overseas trip, wanted a dark tint visor for it and it was basically an extended wait whilst it was sourced from overseas, least I got a massive discount via the distributor; but it was still a hassle for all involved, it was an item they didn't stock here and for a helmet that isn't considered for sale here in NZ
    Even some years ago my old leather jacket (Mars from Melbourne) needed a repair took it to who I thought was a reputable leather specialist, just to be told oh no we can't replace that you'll have to send it to the manufacturer; Contacted them and yeah sure we can do it you'll just have to post it over

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    Software, but it's relevant to pretty much every other market in NZ: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...-digital-goods
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